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That's a lot of tire for an already range limited ED!
WHile true, i don't know that the extra 10 MM in width will impact the range all that much. The upside is that there are a ton of decent tires in that size for low prices..
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I own the gas 2013 Smart Passion, so I can't speak for ED, but the below in my opinion is the only option. I bought mine at Mavis.

Continental ContiProContact
All Season Grand Touring

Front:
175/55

Rear:
195/50
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all season are not winter tires.
thinner is better, I have a gas and ev and have the 145 on both

in snow they cannot be beat, less than $200 for 4 tires

simpletire.com last year

yokahama tires, all season are much harder compound in cold weather, winter tires are much better

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In my typical NYC-centric way of thinking, bigger is better. But I imagine you're right about the size of the tires and their performance in the snow. Anytime I hit the road in the NYC area I think that the widest, baddest tires are the best. I see Smarts with thin tires and fear for them. Not sure why. The Continentals I've installed this fall are impressive...and mucho $, I'm sure most on this forum are familiar.

Good to know about your success.

And you'd beat me in a race as I am a lightfoot!
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I run like size on both cars in both seasons.
The summer conti tires in even light snow are scarry.
The wider tires you mention 195 are like snow boards, if they are a hard compound, that will reall suck.
Like an old muscle car with drag tires in snow, not very good at all.

was just showing some friends this https://youtu.be/atayHQYqA3g

Very good info
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The standard rims for the Smart 451 are 4.5Jx15 ET23.5 front and 5.5Jx15 ET22 rear.

The standard tires on these rims are 155/60R15 74T front and 175/55R15 77T rear.

Nokian make winter tires in 165/60R15 and 185/55R15 sizes that would fit these rims nicely.

NOKIAN HAKKAPELIITTA R3
165/60R15 81R XL
185/55R15 86R XL


NOKIAN HAKKAPELIITTA 8
165/60R15 81T XL Studded
185/55R15 86T XL Studded

https://www.nokiantires.com/tires/pa.../winter-tires/

I've tried running same size tires all round on the Smart ForTwo and would not recommend it. It was fine in the dry as the front camber causes understeer (which is safe), but in slippery conditions you can lose the back end suddenly and spin 360 degrees (if the car's ESP doesn't save you). Using rear tires that always have more grip than the front tires means you never have to worry about suddenly losing your back end and you can let your granny drive your car. The ForTwo that I did the test in was a pre-2003 ForTwo so didn't have ESP. ESP models should stop you losing your back end but you will be relying on the car's electronics rather than just the mechanical grip of the tires to keep you safe. You can't do a proper test in an ESP model, as the car's electronics stop you feeling what's going on with the mechanical grip of the tires.
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In my typical NYC-centric way of thinking, bigger is better. But I imagine you're right about the size of the tires and their performance in the snow. Anytime I hit the road in the NYC area I think that the widest, baddest tires are the best. I see Smarts with thin tires and fear for them. Not sure why. The Continentals I've installed this fall are impressive...and mucho $, I'm sure most on this forum are familiar.

Good to know about your success.

And you'd beat me in a race as I am a lightfoot!
I live in Iowa, and have an SUV with 20” diameter 11” wide wheels/tires. They wear down faster then skinny tires, but POT holes are no big deal. Almost unfelt.
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I found that running 20 mm spacers behind the OEM front rims helped driving behavior significantly,
Spacers like this?
https://www.amazon.com/ECCPP-Spacers...-2-spons&psc=1
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These were the ones I purchased:

smart car Wheel Spacers by SILA Concepts - 20mm (set of 2) Online Store - smart car Parts and Accessories

They come with extended length bolts. Use a little bit of locktite on the screw that holds the spacer in place and all will be great. I've got several thousand miles on them with no problems at all.
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I have Eibach wheel spacers on my car, 20mm front and 30mm rear. The Eibach spacer looks a lot like the ones Foolios posted a link to. It is much easier to mount the wheel when you have the protruding center area to hang the wheel on when starting the wheel bolts.
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