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post #21 of 44 (permalink) Old 01-29-2014, 07:10 PM
 
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On the You Tube video, the train looked like it was keeping pace with traffic - so probably about 35 mph - not a fast train. The still photos show a crossing arm down and lights. I couldn't see the arm or the lights on the video, but having worked in maintenance of way on a railroad, the train should have triggered the crossing safety features so that the arm should have been down or descending and the lights working. If she drove around the crossing arm, she violated a traffic law. If the lights were going and the arm hadn't fully descended, she was also probably guilty of a traffic violation but she was certainly not making a very intelligent move. A direct hit vs. the glancing blow the car received likely wouldn't have had anywhere near the same outcome. Whenever we worked near a crossing I saw cars rushing to beat trains. I guess they think they're a movie hero and invulnerable.
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You can't preach that enough.

Last week someone in my town decided to try to beat a commuter train around the gates. The train planted a direct hit on the passenger compartment at 60mph. It wasn't a good ending...

P.S. Although the video quality is rubbish, I see what resembles the crossing gate arm in the video.
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One thing I can't make out in that video is whether there is any signal to the parallel traffic, such as a "strict" right turn arrow that would go red when there is a train. At this crossing, such a feature should exist to keep traffic from even attempting to turn.

We have a similar crossing here, but the setback from the road is long enough that drivers have a chance of seeing the gates down. This crossing also wreaks havoc on PM rush hour traffic because the intersection isn't configured to keep as much traffic as possible moving on the intersection side... There are two lanes, both can go straight through, the left one often has cars turning left and the right one backs up for quite a distance with through and right-turning traffic.

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That crossing is way too close the the roadway. There should not be a crossing there if there isn't room to set it back a proper distance from the road. I don't know what the regulations there are, but I;m pretty sure there is a required distance everywhere. Somehow I doubt it's 10 feet.
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Just after I saw this thread we had an incident nearby where a guy in a pickup was hit by a train - he was the fourth one to go around the crossing arms and they said 4 inches further to the front and he'd have been killed. He only had minor injuries - a couple of cuts and bruises. The cop who responded to the accident went to the hospital and, in addition to completing his investigation, he cited the driver. The news media played up his brush with death and an earlier incident where he was shot when delivering pizzas. They seemed to be surprised he was cited.
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That crossing is way too close the the roadway. There should not be a crossing there if there isn't room to set it back a proper distance from the road. I don't know what the regulations there are, but I;m pretty sure there is a required distance everywhere. Somehow I doubt it's 10 feet.
I take it you haven't seen "Street Running".

- Trains and cars run in close parallel. In many street running setups, there isn't even a barrier (let alone a crossing gate) with the train dividing the street into halves.



Here in IL, it's a little common to see an extremely short distance between road and track...sometimes without gates and just light!
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I take it you haven't seen "Street Running".

- Trains and cars run in close parallel. In many street running setups, there isn't even a barrier (let alone a crossing gate) with the train dividing the street into halves.



Here in IL, it's a little common to see an extremely short distance between road and track...sometimes without gates and just light!
That's in Oakland, Ca, near Jack London Square...

40+ trains a day, a great place to watch.
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I know, I must be a horrible person, but when I read this today on the local news site, I had to laugh at it.

SUV driver flees after slamming into side of train in northeast Houston | abc13.com
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I'd say outstanding warrants was the reason he driver fled.
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