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post #1 of 54 (permalink) Old 06-04-2008, 08:12 PM Thread Starter
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Turbo Charge kit for the 451 Smart Car

Turbo Charger kit for the 451 Smart Car


I am doing a survey to see who would be interested in a Turbo Charger kit for the Smart. Price point would be in the $4500.00 range for the complet kit including any fuel pressure modifications and/or CPU programming. Kit would be after the CAT to avoid emission issues. The Turbo is a variable vane housing so a wastegate is not needed.

Please post your response on this site so I can justify manufacturing the kit. Kit production would take approximately 2 months for R&D and finalization. We will have tech support and a warranty as well. I will have some more specific HP data but we are looking at anywhere from 20-40HP increase based on boost.

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After the cat turbocharger?

wow...

Not to rain on your parade, but it doesn't make a damn bit of difference where you put it.

You'll also run into some nasty packaging issues if you decide to play around with stock manifold, not much room to be had if you'd like to keep a muffler.

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All you need to do is source the ECU mapping software and computer...

Our 10:1 motor is already set up for turbo
You can buy from Europe every factory turbo part
all the is needed is the Turbo ECU program

I think all the factory parts can be had in the $2000~$2500 range

Post cat would have too much lag IMO,
I doubt you will have the room to do a post cat system as noted above

But in the final analysis...$4500+ is too much for all but 4 or 5 smart owners to get 20~40HP

A full smartsuki kit is in the $10,000 range and less then 15 total folk in the usa will do it
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Totally agree with the above.
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$4,500 is too expensive, pure and simple. A state-of-the-art turbo system upgrade/replacement for my my Mazdaspeed MX-5 is $2,500. That price includes my choice of GT2554R, GT2560R, or GT3071R turbo mechanism. For the smart I would not expect a turbo to cost over $2,500 either.
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I think the cost is a bit high for a 1 liter engine, maybe under $ 2,000. Most TRD (Toyota supercharger kits) run about $ 2,000 for $25-35,000 cars/trucks with 3.5 liter plus engines.
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Rolling on the floor

All you gotta do is talk to me and geez, i'm in kansas city, Mo.
I'm not trying to be a jerk , but you guys are clueless. Try searching my prior posting... geez!!
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About $3k for a brand name S2000 turbo. $4k might be hard to justify for a smart.
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Whats the point of going turbo? It still wouldn't be able to beat anything.
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All you gotta do is talk to me and geez, i'm in kansas city, Mo.
I'm not trying to be a jerk , but you guys are clueless. Try searching my prior posting... geez!!
You're worse than that guy that keeps asking about 17" wheels in chrome....everyday.

Always stating that everyone is an idiot, then "not offering tech support" to support your claims.

Can a turbo be slapped onto one of these cars for less than $1000? Sure.

I personally don't feel like rigging up a setup like that, if you feel so inclined then go for it. Brabus beating HP is nothing to brag about, people have already tweaked the 84bhp car to over 120bhp in europe.

The biggest expense to boost this car is the remap, even on a NA car its around $700 to get it done plus you have to send your ecu overseas. Nobody in the US, to my knowledge, has the ability to play around with that aspect of tuning right now.

There is someone else on this board that I think you'd get along with, I think he was in the thread about hot-air intakes. His s/n escapes me but I know there was alot of name dropping, inflated claims without proof to back it up and a picture of a droopy-eyed MR2. Go talk to him, you two would probably hit it off with your drifto mad-tyte 240sx nonsense.

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