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On The Hunt for a 2005 Smart 450

Hello everyone,

I just signed up to the site a couple of days ago. I've been looking for a Smart 450 for a little while now, and have zeroed-in on a couple of them. Unfortunately none of them are in my area, so I have only seen them on line...
The one I am leaning towards most has a price tag of $7,995 (about average for what I have found so far), but also has the most mileage (About 60K miles). I know that for any other "regular" car out there it would be considered very low miles (6K plus/year), but I was wondering if it is the same for the 450s, since the other ones I've found are "all" lower mileage!?! (In the 30Ks, 40Ks, there is even one with only 13K!!)
Anyway, other than the mileage differences, the one I really "want" (60K miles), has the Clock, the Tach, and nicer rims. The only thing missing is the Sliding Roof Cover (which none of them has it anyway...). In short, it has all the "little" things that I wish to have on it, and not have to get it afterwards, and have to have it installed probably for more than I would like to pay for...
Have I already answered my own question??
Any help/suggestion will be greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
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That kind of money will get you a 2006 Diesel grandstyle coupe with around 8000 mile (11400 KM). Heated seats, sunroof and all the options and goodies...you just have to go to Vancouver to get it.

Heres the URL

2006 Grandstyle Coupe 191/200 Only 11,400kms Green - Club smart Car
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That kind of money will get you a clean 08 passion with ~6,200 miles with $1,000 to spare.... only $6900
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They pop up on Craigslist in California fairly regularly. If it's a car you're serious about, just be patient and take your time.


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For the original poster - gas engine (I think the cars that were grey-market-imported to USA) or diesel (Canadian spec)? You don't state your location ... but your use of "miles" suggests USA.

The turbocharged 600cc and 700cc gas engines in the 450 models do not have a good reputation for durability. There are a few high-mileage diesels out there running around, but they have more than their share of headaches, too.

The non-turbo Mitsubishi gas engine in the 451 model is not perfect, either ... but it's a lot better than the older models. And if you are in fact in the USA, parts availability for the 451 is merely annoying and difficult, as opposed to nigh-on impossible for the 450.
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Hello everyone,

I just signed up to the site a couple of days ago. I've been looking for a Smart 450 for a little while now, and have zeroed-in on a couple of them. Unfortunately none of them are in my area, so I have only seen them on line...
The one I am leaning towards most has a price tag of $7,995 (about average for what I have found so far), but also has the most mileage (About 60K miles). I know that for any other "regular" car out there it would be considered very low miles (6K plus/year), but I was wondering if it is the same for the 450s, since the other ones I've found are "all" lower mileage!?! (In the 30Ks, 40Ks, there is even one with only 13K!!)
Anyway, other than the mileage differences, the one I really "want" (60K miles), has the Clock, the Tach, and nicer rims. The only thing missing is the Sliding Roof Cover (which none of them has it anyway...). In short, it has all the "little" things that I wish to have on it, and not have to get it afterwards, and have to have it installed probably for more than I would like to pay for...
Have I already answered my own question??
Any help/suggestion will be greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
Be patient. I bought my 2004 cabriolet for $8K including shipping a couple of years ago. It had only 6000 Km on it, and now is up to 11000 Km, There are a LOT of low-mileage smarts out there.

One thing to keep in mind is that the 450 engine will likely need to be rebuilt at 80-100K mi and there is no one that will do it, so you are on your own. If you buy a high-mileage 450, then you likely aren't far from having to deal with that. I can rebuild it, so I'm good with that, but there is not that many people who can; so, there will be plenty of them available to hobbyists. If you aren't mechanically inclined then you should think about a 451 despite the 450's je ne sais quoi! If you must have one then go in with your eyes wide open!
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Ebay.UK and Ebay.DE have tons of parts for 450's. Problem is a lot of sellers won't ship to the USA. Rebuild kits and rebuilt engines. Canada and Mexico have parts and technicians. Go for the lowest mileage you can find. They are a blast. I got mine with less than 100 miles on it for $9300.
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That kind of money will get you a 2006 Diesel grandstyle coupe with around 8000 mile (11400 KM). Heated seats, sunroof and all the options and goodies...you just have to go to Vancouver to get it.

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2006 Grandstyle Coupe 191/200 Only 11,400kms Green - Club smart Car
radar231: Man, I wish!! I would have no problem going to Canada to get one. I had found quite a few in my searches - all in Canada - with lower mileage and fairly low prices...The problem would be in registering it here in California (SF Bay Area)...
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That kind of money will get you a clean 08 passion with ~6,200 miles with $1,000 to spare.... only $6900
I know, I know...but I just can't help it - I got a thing for the 450s that I just can't shake it!!
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I know, I know...but I just can't help it - I got a thing for the 450s that I just can't shake it!!
I feel ya!

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