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post #41 of 221 (permalink) Old 03-08-2011, 09:06 PM
 
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Somebody cheaped out the electronics for the transmission, and it shows.

It needs a few more bits of A/D resolution.
It needs a few more dimensions on the lookup tables/maps.
Processor needs to be faster.

As it is, you will find yourself lurching through corners, because the processor cannot comprehend the steering wheel is being turned.

You can, however, put one foot on the brake and one foot on the acclerator and 'wind up' the transaxle. :eek:

And the processor cannot comprehend you may be trying to back-up a hill. Kinda scary, rolling down a hill when you are trying to back into a driveway (on a blind turn) :eek:

What Getrag needs to do is open source the code, and tolerate someone hacking an solid state clutch pedal.

The paddle shifters need to be fixed, not rotating with the steering wheel.

All in all, the drivetrain is culturally biased, and I suspect that the German engineers would smirk and say "Americans don't know how to drive".

Maybe not, but I DO know how to back up a hill, and the Getrag tranny in the SmartCar does not.

And even my aunt that lurched a Chrysler TorqueFlite could make it around a corner (without lurching).

What's the use of having an 'idiot-proof' tranny (to reduce warranty work) when nobody wants to be a return customer?

Put a clutch-by-wire in the damned thing, and cost it as 'customer loyalty'.

And the dealers are not being entirely honest with the true cost of a replacment key. Here in Indy, World Wide Motors played dumb and refused to disclose the cost of a key being the $170 key and the $110 programming charge.

I have done customer service, and I call BS on not having a scripted response for "How much to have a replacement key made?".

I'll keep the damned thing, at least for 100,000 miles. But my Chevy Metro never pissed me off like this SmartCar is doing.
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Well, welcome to SCoA. I'll ask the obligatory "did you test drive before buying?" question. If so, the car's operation should not have been a surprise. These cars are what they are - nothing more, nothing less. And hoping for changes in the current version when a new model is a couple of years away is not realistic IMHO. If it really bugs you, just sell it. Life is too short...
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After driving a 6 speed CRZ, and a new 5 speed Fiat 500 manual. The smart shifts just like any manual transmission car, with out a clutch pedal. Same shifting feel. NO delay, NO jerky jerky!!! Let the monkey in the rear push in the clutch. After 3 years driving it, it's NO big deal ................................
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yeah, just IMAGINE that you are shifting a manual and all is right with the world. The problem is preping the customer to accept and even expect the transmission behavior. IF you tell them it's an automatic they expect it to behave like one. Tell them it's a manual transmission, but the car will shift it for you and then it will make more sense in their mind.
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As it is, you will find yourself lurching through corners, because the processor cannot comprehend the steering wheel is being turned.
About 1/3 of my daily 140-mile commute in my '08 cabrio takes me through winding canyon roads where I average about 50mph. The car loves to turn, with nary a lurch!

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The paddle shifters need to be fixed, not rotating with the steering wheel.
A big part of the enjoyment of buzzing through said canyons is manually shifting while keeping my hands on the wheel. How I would do that with paddles not rotating with the wheel is hard to imagine.

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All in all, the drivetrain is culturally biased...
It certainly seems biased towards folks who appreciate big things in small packages.

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What's the use of having an 'idiot-proof' tranny...
Apparently not idiot-proof enough.
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What Peter said, x2. Very well put.
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I just sold my F-150 lariat Super Crew Cab 5.4 V8. I have always drove a big truck. I got a 08 Passion, and I really thought I would not get use to driving such a small car. I truly enjoy driving my Smart, it scoots along just fine and shifting is no issue as long as you let up off the gas just as you would a manual transmission. Heck, the fact that I washed and waxed the entire car in 30 minutes was aswesome.
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It don't take much wax either
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It don't take much wax either
Just adds to the overall cost savings in owning a Smart
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