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CONFIRMED: next twingo will be the fortwo and its engine will be a .9 TWIN
(maybe they should call it the twin-go)
Renault confirms smart fortwo-based city car
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.9 twin? FIAT Twin Air?
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.9 twin? FIAT Twin Air?
Since it's for the Renault variant and only 64hp, I'd have to presume that will be a Euro only city option offered by Renault as an entry level Twingo.
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Since it's for the Renault variant and only 64hp, I'd have to presume that will be a Euro only city option offered by Renault as an entry level Twingo.
I would think so. If that's all they bring to the U.S., the value of our second gen smarts would go up!
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Finally, the name TWIN GO makes sense.

It'd be cool to have a (flat?) twin powering a smart, it brings back the memory of the Fiat 595 SS and so on.
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Twin Diesel ???
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Since it's for the Renault variant and only 64hp, I'd have to presume that will be a Euro only city option offered by Renault as an entry level Twingo.
Maybe, but I think it's only a matter of time. Fewer cylinders are more efficient, and the Twin-Air is a REALLY nice little engine. I think it would actually be a good choice for a smart, which is smaller and lighter than a 500. Ford said the other day that some crazy percentage of cars sold will be 4 cylinders by the end of the decade. If even the larger cars will be running 4-bangers, then it's not much of a stretch to see that at the very bottom of the food chain we could be seeing some twins. For me, I would be MORE interested in the 500 with a twin.
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Twin Diesel ???
That would be OK by me! I don't think they will do that though. It's tough to meet the crazy US diesel standards, and with a turbo twin gas the fuel economy would be well north of 50 mpg already, so it would be a tougher sell.
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FRANKFURT, Germany, Sept. 11, 2013 /PRNewswire/ --

Portfolio of jointly developed major projects has jumped from three to ten
Nissan and Daimler have completed factory building for the joint production of engines in the USA

The chief executives of the Renault-Nissan Alliance and Daimler AG said today that their companies' partnership is advancing quickly, and the scope of the collaboration is increasingly global.

The French-Japanese-German partnership began in April 2010, with three "pillar projects" primarily focused on Europe. Since then, the portfolio has increased to ten significant projects, including major initiatives from North America to Japan. In addition, relevant business units are working together in best-practice sharing and other forms of cooperation.

"While our initial collaboration focused strongly on European projects, we are now focusing on synergies in all key markets", Renault-Nissan Chairman and CEO Carlos Ghosn said today at an annual media briefing on the partnership. "The largest economies of scale are always global."

"We will continue to seek out new projects together that make sense for all partners and, most importantly, our customers", Daimler CEO and Head of Mercedes Benz Cars Dieter Zetsche said.
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The CEOs cited the joint production of Mercedes-Benz four-cylinder gasoline engines in Decherd (Tennessee, USA) as a good example of how the partners profit from the cooperation. Just one and a half years after the groundbreaking in May 2012, the factory building for the joint production of Mercedes-Benz four-cylinder gasoline engines is now complete. Production machinery is now being installed and the start of production is planned for mid-2014. The engines produced in Decherd will then be used in the Mercedes-Benz C-Class, which is produced at the Daimler plant in Tuscaloosa (Alabama, USA), and in new Infiniti products.
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The smart/Twingo project is also progressing as planned. Production will begin soon on the new two-seater smart at the smart plant in Hambach (France) and of the four-seater smart and the Renault Twingo successor model at the Renault plant in Novo Mesto (Slovenia). Market launch of the model versions is planned for the second half of 2014. The new generations of the smart and the Renault Twingo are being developed on the basis of a shared architecture, but will remain independent products with an unmistakable brand appearance. A show car of the new smart four-seater ("smart fourjoy") was presented at the Frankfurt Motor Show this Monday.


Collaboration between Daimler and Renault-Nissan advances globally, CEOs say -- FRANKFURT, Germany, Sept. 11, 2013 /PRNewswire/ --
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