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Apparent Immunity Gene ‘Cures’ Bay Area Man Of AIDS

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SAN FRANCISCO (CBS 5) — A 45-year-old man now living in the Bay Area may be the first person ever cured of the deadly disease AIDS, the result of the discovery of an apparent HIV immunity gene.
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Brown was living in Berlin, Germany back in 2007, dealing with HIV and leukemia, when scientists there gave him a bone marrow stem cell transplant that had astounding results.
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Scientists said Brown received stem cells from a donor who was immune to HIV. In fact, about one percent of Caucasians are immune to HIV. Some researchers think the immunity gene goes back to the Great Plague: people who survived the plague passed their immunity down and their heirs have it today.
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UCSF’s Dr. Paul Volberding, another pioneering AIDS expert who has studied the disease for all of its 30 years cautioned that while “the Berlin Patient is a fascinating story, it’s not one that can be generalized.”

Both doctors stressed that Brown’s radical procedure may not be applicable to many other people with HIV, because of the difficulty in doing stem cell transplants, and finding the right donor.

“You don’t want to go out and get a bone marrow transplant because transplants themselves carry a real risk of mortality,” Volberding said.

He explained that scientists also still have many unanswered questions involving the success of Brown’s treatment.


“One element of his treatment, and we don’t know which, allowed apparently the virus to be purged from his body,” he observed. “So it’s going to be an interesting, I think productive area to study.”
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The institute said it plans to begin clinical trials next year.
Apparent Immunity Gene ‘Cures’ Bay Area Man Of AIDS CBS San Francisco


There are a lot of unanswered questions in this case, but it does point to the possibility to a cure for others. IF one can receive stem cells from a donor who was immune to HIV and be cured, this opens up some interesting possibilities.

People would need to have DNA tests to see if they carry the immunity or not. If they have the immunity, they would have to be willing to be put in a registry as a possible match for someone suffering with HIV. Also, because transplants themselves carry a real risk of death, the cure might be as bad as the disease.

Interesting, but there's still a lot more work to be done...


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Similarly, I've known of patients with Sickle cell anemia, who had leukemia, were given a stem cell transplant and were simultaneously cured of both diseases. Now if they can develop a stem cell transplant that would reverse kidney disease, that would be huge, and eliminate the need for dialysis for tens of thousands of people. That would take a huge load off of medicare which covers that tremendous expense for most people with end-stage renal disease.
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As best as I can understand this, around 1% of the population has a natural immunity to AIDS and a bone marrow transplant appears to pass this immunity on. On the surface this sounds easy, but in reality, it's messy and could lead to complications (death).

There appears a lot more work needs to be preformed to find the best way to keep the advantages and reduce the potential for complications. For now, it's a ray of hope and who knows, may become the solution for other medical problems...


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Who knows, maybe they will figure out how to harvest one's stem cells, turn on the gene in the harvested cells and transfuse them back to the patient after treatment to eliminate the non immune original bone marrow. It is an interesting time we live in.
I just read about all the stem cell work they are doing on race horses with great success, so human attempts can't be too far behind.
Now, if we could just get MB to investigate zeroshift's transmission technology...
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Now if stem cells could just cure STUPID !!


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The real question, here is "What is AIDS?" That answer started off with two real diseases, but as funding expanded into a real religion, the list of diseases included as "AIDS" has grown huge! AIDS is not a disease, but a now-long-list of old diseases used to create medical terrorism for funding, not unlike "Global Warming". One gene that can cure the whole list of AIDS diseases is, therefore, impossible.
Twenty-One AIDS Defining Conditions

Anyone with a brain can see one virus, which, by the way, has never been isolated which is why in 30 YEARS of pouring money into Robert Gallo's pocket has never produced an HIV vaccine, cannot possibly produce all these conditions on the list. We've never photographed an HIV virus, only "particles" in a huge soup of other stuff.
We have millions of DRAWINGS of what HIV should look like if we ever find one in the next 30 odd years.

HIV tests are for "antibodies", the body's IMMUNITY chemistry that makes you immune from Chicken Pox, Mumps, everything EXCEPT HIV, quite mysteriously. If you test positive for Chicken Pox antibodies, your body kills any Chicken Pox virii that enter...making you IMMUNE from getting it, NOT meaning you HAVE Chicken Pox! Why is this different ONLY for HIV...if it exists at all.

HIV also fails Koch's Postulate because about the same percentage of AIDS patients test positive as does the rest of us who never get AIDS. Not a single medical worker has ever contracted HIV/AIDS from a needle stick from an AIDS patient. Hospitals no longer waste isolation rooms on them after this was discovered.

If the cash cow to the HIV religion were cut off, medical research might find the cause
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HIV tests are for "antibodies", the body's IMMUNITY chemistry that makes you immune from Chicken Pox, Mumps, everything EXCEPT HIV, quite mysteriously. If you test positive for Chicken Pox antibodies, your body kills any Chicken Pox virii that enter...making you IMMUNE from getting it, NOT meaning you HAVE Chicken Pox! Why is this different ONLY for HIV...if it exists at all.
Well it's not different for HIV. Any virus, any virus at all, is cured with antibodies. That's why you can never get the same virus twice, your body "remembers" the last time you got it and immediately attacks it when it enters your system. The thing with most of the deadlier viruses, HIV included, is that they only need to infect you once. And HIV/AIDS, it never kills you. You could theoretically live in a bubble with HIV/AIDS forever. What kills you is the common cold you get after AIDS destroys all your white blood cells.

The "cure" for AIDS will likely be the same as the cure for the flu that we have today (e.g. inject a weakened form of AIDS into the host and let the body fight it off). I believe the only problem with that is current genetics, once we're able to breed a "weak" version of AIDS we can inject into people then they would become immune. Unfortunately this would only be preventative, and not a cure. No virus has ever been cured.
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The main cash cow for the medical industry today is Cancer, and other chronic disease "treatment".

Aids still doesn't produce the money the industry would like, as the bulk of the Aids population is third world.

Prevention makes no cash. The industry is not interested in ANY vaccines or cures. A2Jack

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Now if stem cells could just cure STUPID !!



I think that will require a whole brain transplant!!!


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