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Maybe I'm completely ignorant here but what car needs 9 quarts of oil for a simple oil change?
I'm not sure what the model number is, but I believe that the ML series and the C class with the 6-cylinder take 9 quarts of Mobil 1. The older 4 cylinders took - again, from memory - 6-7 quarts of the stuff.

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my ancient 190E 2.3 took 5.3 quarts, mercedes quoted me $50 for an oil change with standard oil, if my car would have been a later model, $100 for a synthetic change.. i think i'll get changes at every 5000 miles, do the odd ones at the local oil change place, then the even/10,000 mile services at the smart center.
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a $100? That HIGHWAY ROBBERY!!!
I bet with the extra $20, they all order in pizzas...
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Drop the engine?

Drop the engine to do an oil change? I'm interpreting that as "remove the engine."

I don't think there's a manufacturer in the world that would create an engine that had to be removed every 3-6 months. Common sense, there. Besides, removing an engine is a delicate operation, and would cost them more than the profit on a $100 oil change which includes maybe $50 in materials.

If someone at the dealer told you this, either they were joking (i.e. "Smart, huh? Let's see how smart the customer is...") or less likely just pulling out an excuse to get you to agree. Talk to the management, ask them to show you the oil changing instructions in their service manual, or come clean. Hopefully they'll admit to a joke not well received, or will discipline someone intending to deceive.
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Yesterday I called the smart dealer in Utah to ask about the price of an oil change. The sales person told me that the oil change was $100. I ask her why it was so expensive. Her response was that they had to drop the engine to do the oil change!

Now I have to ask the forum if that sounds right. I can't imagine that they have to drop the engine to do an oil change.

Please, anyone, what does an oil change cost for the smart and do they have to drop the engine?

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Joking around with you to seehow gullible you were...had to be something like that. Changing the oil on the Smart is sooooooo freekin easy it isn't funny.
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... I don't think there's a manufacturer in the world that would create an engine that had to be removed every 3-6 months. ...
Semi-close though. The Subaru 3.0L, H-6 engine has to be dropped (physically) out the bottom on a special dealer lift to change the #1 and #6 spark plugs. Oh, had I known...!
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I don't think there's a manufacturer in the world that would create an engine that had to be removed every 3-6 months.
Ferraris, Fieros, Subarus ... to name a few that require yanking an engine for tune ups, changing spark plugs, replacing a clutch, etc. It's not every 3-6 months, but it is at least once a year for people like me who drive their cars.

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That's just wrong.

I was at the local Mercedes-Benz dealer (who does not sell smart) the other day, and they had a placard on the service counter that read: Mobil 1 oil change- 9 quarts of Mobil 1 oil, an original Mercedes-Benz oil filter, and labor. $69.95 + tax.

It would cost more to buy an oil filter from smart and 9 quarts of Mobil 1 at Wal-Mart!
They want $80. to do the same at Hoffman
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I seem to remember a gent that came to visit and was telling us how the car was pricey to maintain. He was treated with scorn and derision for his efforts and I have not seen him again on this site. Perhaps he did know something after all,

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Old Mustang IIs you had to jack up the engine to change one of the spark plugs that I remember. Don't remember the years though 1970s....
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My mountanieer needed the front tires taken off to change the sparkplugs.
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