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By pretax, Cash is saying you need to earn 30K to net out the cost of a smart fully loaded.

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He has still ignored requests for him to tell us what he configured.
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The smart is the kind of car not everyone will like- I think we just have to accept that fact! Many of my friends have simply told me that they'd rather not ride in it as they would feel unsafe - so be it. But I want one and I will get because I want it- not because I seek everyone's approval.
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Ahah....thanks for that tidbit of info, 8-4-2

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This is a riot!

San Mateo County borders the city and county of San Francisco. It's southern portion borders the beginning of Silicon Valley. Historically, it is fairly conservative. Demographically, portions of it are very affluent but it is not as affluent as a whole as Santa Clara County to its south.

When I grew up on the peninsula, the San Mateo Times was something you might not admit to subscribing to. My take is that the only people taking the SM Journal seriously are those who are working or perhaps donating their time.

You just gotta know that I could prattle off and entertain myself with a bunch of remarks, but I don't think this one needs to be taken too seriously. I'd love to know what "lengthy" bridge she is referring to. I'm guessing it is not the San Mateo or Dumbarton Bridges, not the Bay Bridge or the Golden Gate. It's probably the Eugene Duran Memorial Bridge which spans two hills for Highway 280 ... and most vehicles shorter than an S class are going to have a rhythym.

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I know the rhythym of which you speak and have noticed it on other bridges as you go over them. The peaks and valleys of the bridge roadway sagging slightly was probably exacerbated by the Smarts very short wheelbase whereas vehicles with longer wheelbases would not be so noticeable.....good point.

Another good point was Dickey's insofar as the storage compartment. I didn't realize that it had latches and it makes sense that when the latches are released, the compartment cover opens...and she thought it was the panel falling off!!??? :eek:
Good thing she doesn't work for Consumer Reports!!!!! LOLOL
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I'm not sure I understand your $30K scenario. The Smart looks like it would come in under $20K, tax and license out the door, for a Cabrio with every option.

yeah that, and the discussion of pre- and after tax dollars!
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Another good point was Dickey's insofar as the storage compartment. I didn't realize that it had latches and it makes sense that when the latches are released, the compartment cover opens...and she thought it was the panel falling off!!??? :eek:
Good thing she doesn't work for Consumer Reports!!!!! LOLOL
I encountered this when the smart tour came to San Jose. When I went to open the tailgate, I looked for a handle in the center of the tailgate (the usual location), not finding one on the outside, I reached in and found one inside. Surprisingly, the storage compartment cover came off. I learned later that the latches for the tailgate are at either side, both need to be undone to lower the tailgate. This may be an ergonomics problem with our favorite car; we're used to cars having such handles in the center. Plus, how does it work when one arm is full? Can the tailgate be opened with one hand?
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OK, she is a "critic" and entitled to her opinion. Or does she have an agenda? "Ann Job" sounds like a you know what nom de plume!

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Actually, she's not a critic. I'm very surprised at the tone of this article coming from her. Here's a bio:

Award-winning journalist, Ann Job, was the first female national auto writer for The Associated Press and among the first women to cover the Detroit auto beat in the early '80s. She worked as an auto writer at The Detroit News, auto editor at the Detroit Free Press and executive business editor at The Detroit News. She also has written freelance stories for Car & Driver, AutoWeek, Cosmo and a host of newspapers. Ann won a UPI spot news reporting award for her coverage of GM's then-new Saturn auto company in '85. She also won the Ken W. Purdy Award in 1987 for excellence in auto journalism for her work on an investigative series about sudden acceleration. She served as Consumer Editor at MSN's Carpoint website and is currently the AP's test driver of new vehicles.
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wonder how she would compare a Taurus to a 5-series?
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I encountered this when the smart tour came to San Jose. When I went to open the tailgate, I looked for a handle in the center of the tailgate (the usual location), not finding one on the outside, I reached in and found one inside. Surprisingly, the storage compartment cover came off. I learned later that the latches for the tailgate are at either side, both need to be undone to lower the tailgate. This may be an ergonomics problem with our favorite car; we're used to cars having such handles in the center. Plus, how does it work when one arm is full? Can the tailgate be opened with one hand?
Sure, but one latch at a time. It takes getting used to, I'm afraid. At least the window goes up with just a push of the remote control.
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Sure, but one latch at a time. It takes getting used to, I'm afraid. At least the window goes up with just a push of the remote control.
Unless of course, you have Pure. ;)
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Unless of course, you have Pure. ;)
The Smart USA website indicates that the rear window does in fact have a remote release even on the Pure.
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