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Ok... Finally got the right front wheel bearing replaced, I got a used steering knuckle and replaced the whole assembly cheaper than a bearing and having it pressed in.

My grandson was in the car while I was working and managed to start the car, and it scared him so he immediately shut it off before it even started. Now turning the key on, I get the 3 lines and no start (of course)When trying to re-learn the trans, i get nothing. No clunks or any noises. Batt voltage is 12.11 so I put a charger on it, and disconnected the ground. I plan on letting it sit for an hour or so thinking it will clear the computers.

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More info... car does go out of park, shifting to neutral still doesn't start. disconnecting battery for 1 1/2 hours didn't change anything. Charger still connected. Brake lights do work with pedal.

strange thing is the grandson started it about an hour before I finished and shut it off, removing the key before it stopped running.
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You kept the battery connected during the work? (Not sure if that would possibly throw things off)...

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strange thing is the grandson started it about an hour before I finished and shut it off, removing the key before it stopped running.
So the key came out before the engine stopped? Sounds like the ignition switch (key lock) has gone bad.

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Maybe the shifter?? I noticed I don't need to put the brake on to shift out of park, maybe I never did. could be he damaged it when he freaked out that the motor started.

The battery was connected as I did nor remove anything electrical when replacing a wheel bearing (front end suspension)
turning the key to the start position, I get 3 beeps like the door is open
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I'm afraid I have way way less experience than you...

But the shifter in the wrong position, ie not park or N, will not prevent the engine from turning off immediately once the key is turned CCW from the ON position. Early in ownership I actually accidentally turned off the engine on the freeway (thankfully stopped in traffic), but could not restart it in my panicked state to get going when traffic in front of me cleared.

I do hope it's the cheaper of the two possibilities for you!...

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The shifter may have gotten kicked or something, but I am pretty sure the brakes needed to be depressed to shift out of park, and now it doesn't.
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The shifter may have gotten kicked or something, but I am pretty sure the brakes needed to be depressed to shift out of park, and now it doesn't.
Hmmm. Maybe it's stuck in gear and is the shifter as you believe after all. Mine was in D so I couldn't restart her during my incident.

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well when I take it out of park, it does roll on it's own so I don't think it is stuck in a gear, but something may have broke like a gear change motor or the shift itself. Next step is to pull the console apart and see what is in there I guess.

Getting tired of all the details to keep this critter running... maybe time to change to something else???
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Played a bit more this morning. Charger left on overnight, Battery voltage is 12.46 volts. I double checked and it does NOT come out of park without pressing the brake pedal. 3 lines still there, attempting the re-teach does nothing. Starting to wonder the condition of the clutch actuator as it does not make any noise at all when moving the shifter or when the key is activated.... I do hear a relay click when I turn to start position with the key. No codes on the Scangauge...(not surprised)

Getting too old for this....
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