Coupe top vs. cabriolet top - Smart Car Forums
User Tag List

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 04-17-2017, 07:00 AM Thread Starter
Moderator
 
sokoloff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Ocean Isle Beach, NC
Posts: 1,162
Thanks: 78
Thanked 157 Times in 121 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 339 Post(s)
Garage
Coupe top vs. cabriolet top

I've got a coupe, so I know it well. I'm considering a cabriolet and want to know what differences there are and what things I need to consider/know. Is the cabriolet top just one thickness of canvas between you and the elements or is there some kind of interior liner? In the coupe, the tail gate has a compartment to store the charging cable. I think on the cabriolet that compartment is used to store the side rails. Is that correct and if so, is there a place to store the charging cable? What issues have you found with the cabriolet that may not be issues with the coupe?

Thanks.

Len
2014 EV
sokoloff is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 04-17-2017, 07:30 AM
SCOA Club
 
MB DNA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: smartin' The Carolina's...
Posts: 7,536
Thanks: 1,469
Thanked 2,423 Times in 1,439 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1239 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by sokoloff View Post
Is the cabriolet top just one thickness of canvas between you and the elements or is there some kind of interior liner? In the coupe, the tail gate has a compartment to store the charging cable. I think on the cabriolet that compartment is used to store the side rails. Is that correct and if so, is there a place to store the charging cable? What issues have you found with the cabriolet that may not be issues with the coupe?
451 ED cabrio does have interior headliner. It does not have tailgate EVSE storage as it is configured for rails and there is no alternate place to "store" cable as with the ED coupe.

451 ED cabrio is noisier (both wind and road) than coupe which might distract from the EV silent running.

On the other hand, you live in a mild climate so the top will be back most of the time adding that "kewl" factor while not using any battery power to cool/heat the interior!

451 ED cabrio may not be as easy to load up that Costco shopping cart as a coupe hatch but no real issues, just a matter of taste.
MB DNA is offline  
post #3 of 6 (permalink) Old 04-17-2017, 09:34 AM
 
stevenvillatoro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,476
Thanks: 261
Thanked 485 Times in 355 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1207 Post(s)
Coupe top vs. cabriolet top

Exactly as MB DNA stated.

I have a few additional comments, having first had two gas coupes, and now a Cabrio ED.

The Cabrio only seems noisier to me when the top is up. When it's open, it seems quiet, even on the freeway.

I learned that top-up wind noise is reduced significantly if you had previously closed the top while at a standstill rather than at speed. It might seal better that way?

Anyway, prior to buying it, I thought the extra noise might be an issue… but it's not a deal-breaker.

I'm fair-skinned, and need to avoid strong daytime sun. So I thought I wouldn't get much value from the Cabrio. Wrong! If it's hot outside, I still crack open the roof by several inches, giving a nice quiet airflow without baking me in the process. The extra draft created by cracking the roof just a few inches is amazing, and really reduces AC usage on warmer days. The roof is a lot more versatile than you might anticipate. In the early morning, late afternoon, and evening, the top always goes down. I never bother to remove the side rails.

With the top down, your rearward visibility is limited to about one-third of the upper portion of your cabin rearview mirror. I had thought this might be a problem, but it's not. If I need to back out of a parking situation and need better visibility, I just raise the roof to its first position so that the rear window is fully usable. When the top is up, there's never a problem.

I wondered if I might miss the coupe's panoramic roof, but I don't. The cabin is so tall, and there's so much glass already that it doesn't make it seem dark inside the Cabrio. Actually, it may stay a little cooler with the top up, which is important to me since I often have a canine companion riding shotgun. On the same subject of staying cool, I do like the Cabrio because I can leave the top cracked open in parking lots which keeps hot air from building up inside as much.

Because the Cabrio is tall AND has side rails, I don't worry as much about vandalism and security as I used to when I had low sports cars. Somebody couldn't slash the Cabrio top and simply reach in quickly to unlock it or grab something.

The Cabrio roof is very nicely finished in/out. At the rear, the lift-up feature of the window for loading really gives you excellent access. Overstuffed grocery bags slide right in with no problem! And I suppose, in theory, that you could load even more big/tall stuff (than in the coupe) if you were to put the Cabrio top down. And you could also load longer items by raising the rear window into its 'fixed raised' position, unlike the coupe which would require tying down the glass to do the same feat.

So far, the benefits of a Cabrio outweigh any downside, but they're both still great options!
stevenvillatoro is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 6 (permalink) Old 04-17-2017, 10:21 AM
SCOA Club
 
MB DNA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: smartin' The Carolina's...
Posts: 7,536
Thanks: 1,469
Thanked 2,423 Times in 1,439 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1239 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevenvillatoro View Post
I never bother to remove the side rails.
stevenvillatoro's comments are spot on!

Our rails generally stay on because of the flexibility that Steven describes!

Rails come off when you are headed to Cars and Coffee and want to scream THIS IS A TRUE CONVERTIBLE not a Fiat cabrio wanna be . . .
MB DNA is offline  
post #5 of 6 (permalink) Old 04-17-2017, 10:41 AM
SCOA Club
 
DowneasTTer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dunnellon, FL
Posts: 713
Thanks: 33
Thanked 259 Times in 143 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 98 Post(s)
One of the big things I love about the cabrio is you can lower the top to first positive by using the key. That way you can get some of that built up heat out before getting in. To me if the top doesn't go down it's not worth owning. When living in Maine I had four soft tops. Now in FL down to three. Love them all.
DowneasTTer is offline  
post #6 of 6 (permalink) Old 04-17-2017, 10:47 AM
 
Mike T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Vancouver Island, Canada
Posts: 4,488
Thanks: 196
Thanked 1,073 Times in 697 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 314 Post(s)
Garage
In the diesels, the coupé has massive engine noise but it's muted in the cabriolet. Wind noise is, however, worse in the cabriolet. The soft top makes the car so much more fun and versatile. I have stuffed my Cervélo racing bike in the car behind the seats sticking up vertically with the top down and two in the car. I'd not want a hardtop smart.
Mike T is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Smart Car Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cabriolet top switch motherlodephoto smart Operation and Maintenance 22 02-19-2019 01:53 AM
What's Wrong With My Cabriolet Top? smartcar111 smart General Discussion 42 09-19-2012 07:35 PM
Las Vegas Cabriolet volunteer needed for Smart Top Roof Top Control Mod! (Mods4Cars) JazJon Nevada Chapter 0 06-15-2012 01:36 AM
Cabriolet top colors??? SubSlr88 smart General Discussion 8 02-12-2012 07:27 PM
Automatic cabriolet top?? em3706 New Members Area 9 10-04-2011 12:48 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome
 

Clubs, Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.