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Can you possibly confirm that the roof rails in the tailgate will not interfere with the JBL speaker system?
Looks like enough room
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The roof rails clear the subwoofer but together they occupy a lot of space.

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The roof rails clear the subwoofer but together they occupy a lot of space.


But if you need to carry that much stuff, just don't put the rails or subwoofer back there. Simple enough.
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You'll be surprised at the amount of negative comment's I've had to deflect regarding the rail storage. It IS a different system than previous because the rails are bigger. The car is wider therefore the rails are bigger. If you want space in the trunk, you're looking at the wrong vehicle. The sub does not interfere with the stored rails but...you can, on a non subbed car, store the load cover low down behind the seats, if you need to carry larger items. The position of the sub prevents this, but again, it's not a deal breaker.
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The car is wider therefore the rails are bigger.

The rails were made slightly bigger for reasons of better structural integrity and occupant safety.
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But if you need to carry that much stuff, just don't put the rails or subwoofer back there. Simple enough.
Which makes it a choice between having the rails out or load space - a choice that isn't required in the 451 cabrio.

Just my .02, but smart did not do their best design work on the 453 cabrio roof rail storage solution.
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Which makes it a choice between having the rails out or load space - a choice that isn't required in the 451 cabrio.

Just my .02, but smart did not do their best design work on the 453 cabrio roof rail storage solution.
Could have done better with the subwoofer too....They could have should have mounted two under seat woofers instead of having one that is removable if it gets in the way of cargo carrying.
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What are you telling people about the fuel tank? That is, do you believe that the issue has been "fixed" and thus telling people that the tank holds 8.7 gallons, or are you telling them it only holds 7+ gallons (even though we know it should hold more), or are you warning them of potential fueling problems? And if it is the first, can you tell us what was done to fix the problem?

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The rails were made slightly bigger for reasons of better structural integrity and occupant safety.
"Made bigger for better structural integrity AND occupant safety" - although NOT an engineer, it does appear that the unreinforced gap in the 453 cabrio Tridion may be smaller?

Although I have seen no citation, this Tridion "redesign" could provide "better structural integrity and occupant safety" especially with the addition of the air bags in the door?

The 453 cabrio rails appear to be slightly shorter and thicker than those of the 451 but are still plastic and held in place by spring loaded pins?

When in place the rails provide a track on which the ragtop moves. When removed they provide a true open air "kewl factor" that is not available from some competitors.
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The great cabrio rail debate - as a cabrio owner for 8 years, much to do about nothing.

Unless you live in a very moderate climate (with no distinct seasons) and don't often hit the highway, being able to put the top down while in motion will satisfy those spontaneous desires.

When city bound you should be fine unless you are heading to Costco. As a road warrior with luggage, rails may have to stay in place?

But then again, as an ED owner I will admit that the EVSE cable is never in the tailgate storage as it remains at home.

Note - those contemplating a 453 ED cabrio may find lots of junk in the trunk? And will the tailgate storage be for rails or EVSE?
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