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One looks at the Fiat 500 and smart ForTwo sales combined and it's obvious that the market prefers larger vehicles... the Corolla alone sells five times more!
Well, from a practical standpoint, if you have a family, a bigger car simply makes more sense. Even if you are a two-car family, then there are too many times either or both of the cars need to seat more than 2 people. Folks that are single, retired, or who just have a LOT of cars it's no big deal to collect a car like the smart for fun (or a Miata or whatever). Additionally many of the 4-seaters don't get THAT much worse gas mileage, so although the smart is fun/stylish, it will never replace the likes of a Corolla, or even a Yaris or FIAT 500.
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Hey, at least we murdered the 2012 Beetle!

(beats me why it's in there when they only started delivering them at the end of August).
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The smart sucked some wind in August as compared with the other small cars (not as small as our smart), but obviously, those other cars had more marketing backup on August. Let's see what Septembers numbers look like after this TV commercial and new marketing strategy.

You can't sell what you don't have. As has been stated before, MBUSA is trying to clear house on '11 model year smarts. They want them all gone before the 2012's arrive. They are expecting poor sales through the middle of October. Most dealers won't have a decent selection of 2012's until the end of October. Don't expect a big sales increase right away. I'll be curious to see the sales figures next year. That will be something to compare.....
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The Honda Civic, isn't really a small car anymore. It's as big as our old 98 Accord. Small is getting bigger

I really don't think the new smart commercials, are going to sell cars.
I tend to agree with you smark. Nothing I have seen in their new uncar campaign would move me to buy a smartie. I am hoping that the advertisements are going to get better and illustrate the main benefits of ownership i.e. safety, economy and fun.

Besides, I don't get the whole uncar concept. An un-*anything* is generally just the opposite. For example the UnCOLA was 7 up, which is not a cola. doh! Therefore, an uncar would be a bicycle or skateboard or something that isn't a car. I don't get where you can call a smart (which is, a car) an un-car. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

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Well, from a practical standpoint, if you have a family, a bigger car simply makes more sense. Even if you are a two-car family, then there are too many times either or both of the cars need to seat more than 2 people. Folks that are single, retired, or who just have a LOT of cars it's no big deal to collect a car like the smart for fun (or a Miata or whatever). Additionally many of the 4-seaters don't get THAT much worse gas mileage, so although the smart is fun/stylish, it will never replace the likes of a Corolla, or even a Yaris or FIAT 500.
Excuse me Kennyrayandersen, I take exception with your terminology here. Two people are a family. It is not necessary to have proven your ability to reproduce to be considered a family. What you should have said was: "...from a practical standpoint, if you have children (i.e. anklebiters, rugrats, flesh loafs, crib lizards, screechlings, etc.,) a bigger car simply makes more sense..."

Considering that STATISTICALLY the more intelligent and educated you are, the more likely you are to be childfree, *and* considering the fact that childfree people have a significantly higher level of discretionary income, many of us opt to purchase high-end two-seaters such as the BMW Z4 M Coupe, or the Porche Boxter or even the Cadillac XLR. Therefore, your assessment of the childed preferring large cars is correct, but there remains a SIGNIFICANT and substantial market for the two-seater *if* you market the car to the right audience.

Family indeed.

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donsgal,

I'm SURE NO offense was meant by kenny....... please, take a deep breath and take on of these




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Excuse me Kennyrayandersen, I take exception with your terminology here. Two people are a family. It is not necessary to have proven your ability to reproduce to be considered a family. What you should have said was: "...from a practical standpoint, if you have children (i.e. anklebiters, rugrats, flesh loafs, crib lizards, screechlings, etc.,) a bigger car simply makes more sense..."

Considering that STATISTICALLY the more intelligent and educated you are, the more likely you are to be childfree, *and* considering the fact that childfree people have a significantly higher level of discretionary income, many of us opt to purchase high-end two-seaters such as the BMW Z4 M Coupe, or the Porche Boxter or even the Cadillac XLR. Therefore, your assessment of the childed preferring large cars is correct, but there remains a SIGNIFICANT and substantial market for the two-seater *if* you market the car to the right audience.

Family indeed.

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yeah, my post was really an underhanded jap at childless people sarcasm button off

but now that you mention it. The last people that should have kids are people that don't want them. Considering your verbiage to describe children, I'm confident you did the right thing. You do bring up an interesting point though, and that is: the people most capable both with regard to resource and ability are having less children, and people [generally] what ain't got the two sticks to rub together are having a gaggle of them.... something messed up and a little backward there (ref Bell Curve).

The smart would sill not be considered a family car in the traditional sense, and CERTAINLY there was no offence intended toward the childless family.

Not to worry I had enough kids to replace you and yours
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yeah, my post was really an underhanded jap at childless people sarcasm button off

but now that you mention it. The last people that should have kids are people that don't want them. Considering your verbiage to describe children, I'm confident you did the right thing. You do bring up an interesting point though, and that is: the people most capable both with regard to resource and ability are having less children, and people [generally] what ain't got the two sticks to rub together are having a gaggle of them.... something messed up and a little backward there (ref Bell Curve).

The smart would sill not be considered a family car in the traditional sense, and CERTAINLY there was no offence intended toward the childless family.

Not to worry I had enough kids to replace you and yours
We're on the same page then, KennyRay!

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Spellcheck turned off KRA?
I read fast, I write fast, I think it was coherent enough for you to get the point
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