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12-31-2017 03:47 PM
Jo e Lefors
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Originally Posted by DowneasTTer View Post
Sorry but even if they had the cars to sell..... it would be a disaster with the marketing team the mother ship has for smart. Take a look at Fiat. Same kind of thing with a expanded car line. Started with the 2 door 500 added a 4 door (didn't sell) added a suv (didn't sell) added a roadster (didn't sell). On top of that FCA actually had a small advertising budget. Plus imho a much better car to sell in the USA.
You hit the nail on the head.
12-31-2017 01:32 PM
DowneasTTer
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Originally Posted by TomLeeM View Post
I also think MB missed with not bringing the Forfour to the USA. They say it is a crowded market but it is - IMO - crowded since so many are interested in a four door four seat car. I read that they were working on a SUV version of the Forfour. I think it would compete with similar size vehicles and be popular in colder regions.

I would have loved to have a Smart roadster come to the US. I think it would make the Smart brand more appealing, just my opinion.

I think those concepts by Smart would be big sellers if they were produced. (just my opinion).
Sorry but even if they had the cars to sell..... it would be a disaster with the marketing team the mother ship has for smart. Take a look at Fiat. Same kind of thing with a expanded car line. Started with the 2 door 500 added a 4 door (didn't sell) added a suv (didn't sell) added a roadster (didn't sell). On top of that FCA actually had a small advertising budget. Plus imho a much better car to sell in the USA.
12-31-2017 01:18 PM
TomLeeM I also think MB missed with not bringing the Forfour to the USA. They say it is a crowded market but it is - IMO - crowded since so many are interested in a four door four seat car. I read that they were working on a SUV version of the Forfour. I think it would compete with similar size vehicles and be popular in colder regions.

I would have loved to have a Smart roadster come to the US. I think it would make the Smart brand more appealing, just my opinion.

I think those concepts by Smart would be big sellers if they were produced. (just my opinion).
12-29-2017 02:01 PM
halfcack Hi,

Do you have any ev's in stock. How much to ship to Binghamton, NY?

Also, I have a bit of a problem. I have another lease car, 2016 Smart, gas. Since I have less than 2000 miles on it, there was a great amount of leeway between servicing.

This past week I saw the message indicator turn from 8500 mile checkup to 28 days.

Benzel-Busch sent me a due for 8500 mile servicing. When I wrote back and mentioned it will be quite a long time before I reached 8500 miles so I will contact you.

The message indicator changed to 28 days after I sent them an email saying that since Iím not going to make a 12 hour round trip drive twice, prepared the road crew to do an in drive serving.

I guess the question is servicing mileage or time based.

Benzel really messed me up. I had the first 2017EV come in. Unfortunately the sales guy, did not order the plain EV I wanted with wheels as the only option but a model with every option available at the time, close to 30,000$. Heated seats, heated steering wheel, etc, in a car with Battery problems.

I would have lost 1000$ in that once in a life time sweet moment. If you are trying to help people as stated keep me in mind. PM me, I wanted to lease/own an Electric Smart since it came out.

At my age, itís getting harder to do things but the problem is time.

I sort of gave up with all the unusual sales promotion from a major luxury car manufacturer.

I could make it to Lynnfield for a pick up as well. Nothing is out of the question including any customer you have that might be interest in a perfect gas model.

Thank you !
12-28-2017 08:39 AM
Jo e Lefors Even using a smart as a dingy for a RV, your potential sales are restricted to mostly singles or couples. Not really good for young couples with kids or even one child. Certainty not if they want to tour around once they set up camp.
My niece and her husband pull a Chevy Suburban behind their diesel pusher RV, but they have 4 kids.

I have to agree with you smark. If you are going to be pulling a smart it better well be a gasser. A 60 mile range won't cut even for some of the retired campground hosts I know. The campground can be 100 miles from any town.
You take a gas powered car "smart", that can be towed 4 down, now let's limit it by replacing the gas engine that has a full tank range of over 300 miles and you can refill in about 7 mins. swap it with an electric motor and batteries that have 60-70 mile range and can take 2 to 4 hours or more to fill (charge) Throw in mountains, A/C or Heat if its cold, you can forget about even getting 60 miles, PLUS you now need a trailer to tow it on. Pretty much useless.
12-28-2017 07:35 AM
smark Personally my self. I would just buy a used ICE smart car. To pull behind a RV. Cheap, used ones go for around $4-7k. Minus the extra weight of hauling a ED smart. On a small trailer. If the ICE smart breaks, at least there service across the country. If the RV breaks down too. You can take the smart, make to the next town. To get help. In Colorado, leave the RV, at the RV Park. Drive the ICE smart around the mountain scenery. 58 mile driving range in a EV, though mountains doesnít cut it.

12-28-2017 05:45 AM
jwight Ohio has gone from four dealers selling smarts to one - Mercedes-Benz of Easton, in Columbus. They are showing two 2018 EDs iin stock. The dealers in Cincy and Cleveland will continue to provide smart service only (probably not for EDs, since they never sold them....)
12-28-2017 05:21 AM
pastor45 They were never into the sales of smart. Every time I took mine to get maintenance I would look at new ones and I would have bought one if they seemed to care. I always felt I was bothering them.
12-27-2017 03:57 PM
Mister_smart_LA
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With the ICE version, I think MB/smart missed a HUGE opportunity by not marketing it more towards people who own RVs and could use the smart as tow-car. They didn't give towing instructions to dealers at all on the 451, and smartUSA waited too long to give us 453 tow instructions. Owner's manuals would said something like "contact smart dealer for towing information" but we had no information to provide for 451, and very little for 453.

453 EV is not tow-able (so we're told), though it could have had a much larger potential target market if it had been designed to be pulled behind an RV.

We sold just as many, if not more, ICE smart cars to the rural regions of New Hampshire and Maine than we did to city-dwellers. I had a great time delivering those cars to the owners and taking the cars on mountain roads, long stretches of highway, etc. I got to drive an electric smart to the top of Mt. Washington which was a lot of fun. They still have their 451 EV for trips up and down Mt Washington- the regen braking going down was ridiculous.
My personal opinion is that, as long as RVers are willing to pull a small trailer for the smart EV to sit on... it's just as good of a choice as a tow vehicle as the gas smarts are. After a long road trip, I don't see too many trips that involve straying far away from the RV and the RV Park... the range of the smart EV should be more than sufficient. It's still a lighter car than most if not all...
12-27-2017 03:42 PM
jbjinturner Aristocrat in Merriam is the same way. Only sold a couple of 2017 gas 453's. Will not sell any ED's. Will continue to service 451's and 453's for some time. Too bad
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