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06-23-2009 10:52 AM
Old smart
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Originally Posted by John_H View Post
Since reading this post by Old smart, I thought the engines came in with non-synthetic oil. Rereading the post, I'm no longer sure if the original oil was a different synthetic or dino oil or if the swap-out experiment became the way they now process the engines.
This what I was emailed by smartUSA (Bloomfield) concerning the VPC oil changes:

"Engines ship wet (filled with oil) from Mitsubishi to Hambach. Our test has been aimed at evaluating the consistency of using Mobil 1 versus the entry of the vehicles with one oil and then a switch to synthetic at the first oil change. Overall, we do not think this is a performance issue. We have just been interested in evaluating the alternative of using a port change as opposed to the much bigger challenge of changing the oil used in the Mitsubishi factory."

Note, it reads "...a switch to synthetic..." not "a switch to a different synthetic."

N.B. Note that this smartUSA VPC experiment began about the beginning of the year. Those smarts coming in after that will be re-filled with Mobil 1 0W-40; those delivered before that, dunno (likely a Nippon Oil Co.** fossil).
**A Mitsubishi company.
06-23-2009 10:34 AM
John_H
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Originally Posted by rarebird View Post
Does anyone know if my new 2009 Smart Passion DEFINITELY came with Pure Synthetic oil in it????
Since reading this post by Old smart, I thought the engines came in with non-synthetic oil. Rereading the post, I'm no longer sure if the original oil was a different synthetic or dino oil or if the swap-out experiment became the way they now process the engines.
06-23-2009 10:19 AM
Padawan
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Originally Posted by Old smart View Post
At 800 miles+ I am on my third oil fill and filter
Why, pray tell?
06-23-2009 09:50 AM
rarebird
Oil question

Does anyone know if my new 2009 Smart Passion DEFINATELY came with Pure Synthetic oil in it???? If it did, then I won't change the oil yet. If it didn't, then I will since I'm at 1,200 miles and it's broken in.

thanks!
08-15-2008 02:48 PM
Old smart
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Originally Posted by Ron F View Post
Old Smart---thanks much. VERY informative.
Ron,

Do you know the Rodgers in Ford's Colony?? Red/black/leather package cabrio - one of the perhaps dozen now in the local "Triangle" area.
08-15-2008 02:24 PM
Ron F Old Smart---thanks much. VERY informative.
08-13-2008 02:19 PM
Old smart
Off My Duff

All of this compels me to get off my lazy duff and get the thread back to "Feral Collie's" thing by cutting my delivery filter (@101 miles) and the second (a Yamaha @ 586 miles) and see what is there to be found.
08-13-2008 01:58 PM
Old smart I don't think Amazon.com is necessarily authorative on anything automotive. I note that the depiction of the filter is somewhat dated (a blue can). Sometime before Purolator USA benchmarked the OEM smart/Mitsu/TR filter (early June '08) they had been "re-canned" the PL14612 to the present gold with non-slip gripping surface. The Amazon info looks outdated.

That said, it still doesn't change the fact that the longer 14612s are somewhat exposed. At the time I alerted Purolator about the exposure, I also suggested that they consider developing a shorter, full-synthetic, fleece, "PL" alternative.
08-13-2008 01:55 PM
Feral_Collie
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Originally Posted by NCC1701 View Post
I'm glad to see scattered through this thread that Mobil 1 (Exxon) isn't required, I'd rather avoid Exxon when possible. There's no way using Castrol Syntec could be a warranty issue, right?
Castrol Syntec 0w-40 is on the list of approved oils, though I think it says European blend, if that's somehow different.

P.S. lol, Starship Enterprise, NCC-1701. BRILLIANT!
08-13-2008 01:17 PM
NCC1701
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Originally Posted by Old smart View Post
After "benchmarking," Purolator subsequently listed the better L14612 semi-synthetic and the best PL14612 full-synthetic fleece in their application guide for the 2008 smart. I note that they are still listed though I sent them Kane's photos showing the exposure of the longer 14612s. Performance-wise, Purolator determined that the 14612's characteristics equaled or exceeded the OEM.
According to http://www.amazon.com/Purolator-PL14612-PureONE-Oil-Filter/dp/B000E8T81U the Purolator PL14612 doesn't fit smart. They could be wrong, but what do you say?

I'm glad to see scattered through this thread that Mobil 1 (Exxon) isn't required, I'd rather avoid Exxon when possible. There's no way using Castrol Syntec could be a warranty issue, right?
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