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Well, aren't you just the blue bird of happiness bearing glad tidings, More like the Chicken of Depression. Still, very very interesting. Thanks for finding it and bringing it to our attention. You are an ossifer and a gentleman.

From the article: It takes years for the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) to compile and organize the statistics for crash deaths and the vehicles in which drivers met their end.
I am just not that limber any more. It takes a wall mounted AND a hand mirror to meet mine. :D
 

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I'm guessing the "Wall Street Cheat Sheet" doesn't care too much about plagiarism? This is the second "article" I've read from that site that has been directly copied from some other few year old article.

I think these findings were first published to the net back in 2009 or 2010. In fact, it looks like the only things they changed were the pictures.

And you know they're not a trustworthy site either...such clickbait...wow...
 

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I'd like to note what car is very visibly missing from that list...:D But, since the smart doesn't qualify on numbers alone(must have at least 100K registered), I know why it's missing. Plus we all know how safe a smart is, it's track record would show in stark contrast to the "smaller is deadlier" mindset of the pollsters...>:D
 

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How old is that article. 2005-2008.

Don't kid yourself with the smart. I meet with a old friend last night. I ask her if she still owned her smart car. It was the twin of my 2008 model. She was hit by a large SUV. Totaled. She was hurt really bad. She did live. It's took her a couple years to get back to being some what normal. I asked if she buy another smart. She said no. She wanted something larger, and safer. Being in the hospital, and PT wasn't worth saving any gas.
 

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Way too many variables - plus, look at the large trucks on the list. Her decision works for her but shouldn't be applied across the population of smart owners IMHO. :)
 

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Way too many variables - plus, look at the large trucks on the list. Her decision works for her but shouldn't be applied across the population of smart owners IMHO. :)
The good ol' American train of thought:
Bigger is always safer so you must buy the largest vehicle you can afford, regardless if you actually need a vehicle that size or not.

Remember folks, what you gain in Passive Safety, you equally lose in Active Safety!
 

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As far as I know ? ? ?

The FORD F series pick up is the most sold vehicle in the US (by a fairly wide margin)?

IF it has more vehicles on the road, then it should have more fatal accidents?

But, it isn't mentioned on this list? Actually, no FORDs are on the list?
 

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As far as I know ? ? ?

The FORD F series pick up is the most sold vehicle in the US (by a fairly wide margin)?

IF it has more vehicles on the road, then it should have more fatal accidents?

But, it isn't mentioned on this list? Actually, no FORDs are on the list?
AFAIK, those statistics take into account how many of them are on the road. Hence the "per million" rule these studies typically take up.
 

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1. Nissan 350Z
And with such weak sales numbers, Nissan 350Z (bumped to 370Z in 2009) owners must be doing some deadly stunt driving?

<table border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: middle;">Year</td><td style="vertical-align: middle;">
Nissan 370Z
U.S. Sales
</td> <td style="vertical-align: middle;">
Nissan 370Z
Canadian Sales
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2002
</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">
13,253
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">n/a </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2003
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
36,728
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">n/a </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2004
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
30,690
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">983 </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2005
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
27,278
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">700 </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2006
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
24,635
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">624 </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2007
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
18,957
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">469 </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2008
</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">
10,337
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">311 </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2009
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
13,117
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">567 </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2010
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
10,215
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">899 </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2011
</td> <td style="vertical-align: middle;">
7328
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: middle;">453</td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2012
</td> <td style="vertical-align: middle;">
7338
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: middle;">489</td></tr> <tr><td style="vertical-align: top;">
2013
</td> <td style="vertical-align: middle;">
6561
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: middle;">452</td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2014 YTD *
</td> <td style="vertical-align: middle;">
5441
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: middle;">312</td></tr></tbody></table>
 

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And with such weak sales numbers, Nissan 350Z (bumped to 370Z in 2009) owners must be doing some deadly stunt driving?

<table border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: middle;">Year</td><td style="vertical-align: middle;">
Nissan 370Z
U.S. Sales
</td> <td style="vertical-align: middle;">
Nissan 370Z
Canadian Sales
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2002
</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">
13,253
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">n/a </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2003
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
36,728
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">n/a </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2004
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
30,690
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">983 </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2005
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
27,278
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">700 </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2006
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
24,635
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">624 </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2007
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
18,957
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">469 </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2008
</td><td style="vertical-align: top;">
10,337
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">311 </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2009
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
13,117
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">567 </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2010
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
10,215
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: top;">899 </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2011
</td> <td style="vertical-align: middle;">
7328
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: middle;">453</td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2012
</td> <td style="vertical-align: middle;">
7338
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: middle;">489</td></tr> <tr><td style="vertical-align: top;">
2013
</td> <td style="vertical-align: middle;">
6561
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: middle;">452</td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">
2014 YTD *
</td> <td style="vertical-align: middle;">
5441
</td><td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: middle;">312</td></tr></tbody></table>
That was my thought exactly. Look at the type of car. There are too many "fast and the furious" wannabe's out there driving around like a bunch of idiots. I fully expect a sports car like that to have a higher fatality rate. It's not because the car is inherently unsafe. It's because the moron behind the wheel believes they are a better driver than they really are...

Want proof? Just do a youtube search for Corvette accidents. You will be amazed at how many people buy more car than they can handle...:|
 

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I'm pretty sure 90% of all the Ford Escorts of that time were rusting away in salvage yards and on the side of the road. :p
 
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