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The 2017 smart EV launches today!

Now, dealers are waiting for vehicles to arrive. Hopefully they arrive early enough today and not at the end of the day. We will likely need at least another day or two to get at least a few of them through their pre-delivery inspections so we can begin truly offering them for lease, sale, test drives, etc,. Heck, we'll need some time to charge batteries too. :nerd:
 

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Start Charging !!!!!!!


How early on Thursday morning will you and Valerie be available to make some new friends?
I probably spoke a bit too soon. Not 1 vehicle has arrived at any dealership in the country, which means it'll probably be a "drop off 1 or 2 cars at the local smart center 5 minutes before they close" kind of launch. Then we'll need a few days.

If we're lucky, I suggest at least giving us until Friday before coming in...
 

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Just received our first shipment an hour ago. We'll have 'em ready by Friday. Super busy day getting things prepped, but just wanted to get the word out... :nerd:

They won't be available for display until Friday...
 

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So what is the MY17 453 ED base cost w/transportation?
$23,800 base msrp + $750 destination. Equipment, options is extra.

OH. Looks like the official EPA Rating dropped from 68 prior generation to 58 current generation. Not sure if this will materialize in the real-world driving situations yet, but I plan on logging some miles to try it out. This car is certainly best as a city dweller.
 

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$23,800 base msrp + $750 destination. Equipment, options is extra.

OH. Looks like the official EPA Rating dropped from 68 prior generation to 58 current generation. Not sure if this will materialize in the real-world driving situations yet, but I plan on logging some miles to try it out. This car is certainly best as a city dweller.
Thanks for the pricing information.

EPA range going backwards with a "next generation" EV is a really big OH!

Perhaps the "whispers" of that reality is weighing on the decisions of some smart Centers to move forward with the brand?

Will be interesting to see how the press and blogasphere play their "all new" reviews?
 

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This is not very smart. The new GM/Chinese venture EV gets better range at 96.

Must be the 10 airbags weighing the car down.

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Looks like the official EPA Rating dropped from 68 prior generation to 58 current generation.
Must be some new math they are doing in the EPA. All energy efficiency ratings (kWh/mile, MPGe) are a hair better than the old one, according to the EPA itself. The battery has the same capacity, yet range is supposed to be 15% less? :shrug:
 

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Hmmmm, $24K for a 2-seater with 58 miles of range, or the redesigned 4-seater Leaf with 160 miles of range for $30K.

https://electrek.co/2017/08/09/next-gen-nissan-leaf-leaked-specs/

With the 453 having been a sales disaster in ICE version, I'm nearly certain that the more aggressive competition in today's EV market will quickly resign the poor number-challenged 453 ED to obsolescence.

Finding someone to shell out $24K for a perceptual plastic toy with marginal usability and abysmal range will be a tough sell, at best, when just $6K more can get an adult EV from a well-regarded EV brand.

smart is dead. (Don't shoot the messenger.)
 

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58 mile EPA range?

x_x

I mean I know the last generation tends to drive much longer below highway speeds, but when you combine that with winter temperatures it could be near-undrivable for a large number of people. My first-gen Leaf works for me, but it can be tough during winter.

I guess I can't take a risk on this until others document its real-world behavior, and probably after winter too!
 

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Heart break in may ways !


EPA,,,,,Unbelievable


Southern California Dealers:
I'm told Only Laguna Beach and Covina.


If true, this is very sad !
 

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From build page

No cabrio? No Kinetic paint option?

No BU camera without JBL? Note, Mid18 production BU camera will be Federally mandated.
 

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I have 2 models right now with the backup camera.
BU camera only or with smart media JBL?

From the build page - Checking $250 BU camera ADDS $490 smart media w/JBL . . . :shrug:

And, assuming your inventory is MY17 perhaps the smart "build page" is programmed for next year or MY18 builds?
 

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Hmmmm, $24K for a 2-seater with 58 miles of range, or the redesigned 4-seater Leaf with 160 miles of range for $30K.

https://electrek.co/2017/08/09/next-gen-nissan-leaf-leaked-specs/

With the 453 having been a sales disaster in ICE version, I'm nearly certain that the more aggressive competition in today's EV market will quickly resign the poor number-challenged 453 ED to obsolescence.

Finding someone to shell out $24K for a perceptual plastic toy with marginal usability and abysmal range will be a tough sell, at best, when just $6K more can get an adult EV from a well-regarded EV brand.

smart is dead. (Don't shoot the messenger.)
Let's keep calm here. Most smart 453 EV's brought to the U.S. will be leased to folks who drive to work within the 58 mile range. There are some folks out there who drive 10 miles to work, 10 miles home. 15 one way, 15 return. 6 one way, 6 back. 20 one way, 20 back.

The current lease is only $139 per month, with a relatively low down payment. Roughly $150 with tax, per month. Some cities that's a monthly bus pass.

It's still a usable vehicle. It does alienate the longer distance commuters though. MB has future EV's planned with significantly longer range.

The car is much nicer than the prior 451, and in some cases is tighter and more solid in its feel and handling ability than longer range EV's from competitors.

The smart 453 EV is designed for city dwellers who plan to use their other car for long distance trips. Judging the vehicle on its own merit --- it's a totally awesome car. The steering and handling feel is substantially improved over smart 451's, the power steering is assisted aggressively at a standstill so one-handed u-turns are easy unlike the 451's. The car still has the absolute tightest turning circle on the market too, so city dwellers navigating tight street traffic will enjoy this car immensely in my opinion.
 

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I could see the 58 being a typo. Is there a way to corroborate the info off the website?

A 15% decrease in range seems unlikely, verging on insane. Either that or the 453 designers were fooling themselves with recreational substances.
 
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