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Toyota's doing it again. Their innovative and all new car, called the iQ, may perhaps outwit the Smart Fortwo. The Toyota iQ for 2009, is a kind of a four-passenger Smart For Four. But again government hurdles will lengthen the cars arrival. The iQ needs to be significantly modified, just like the Smart was for American safety standards. Even though it has been confirmed the Toyota iQ minicar will go on sale in Japan and Europe. The Toyota iQ requires improved rear end strengthening. Some suggest eliminating the cars rear seat, making it a two-seater like the Smart ForTwo. We believe keeping the four-seat design will give those who are not fond of the Smart ForTwo's limited seating.

Another self serving motive why the iQ may never be launched here is its low price tag and fuel consumption rating. This may detract from sales of Toyota's more costly third-generation Toyota Prius. The Toyota iQ has nine air-bags, including the first car ever to have a rear-window curtain air-bag and Toyota's reports that it could be badged as a Scion and may be at next month's Los Angeles Auto Show.

We believe that Toyota's new iQ minicar will be sold in the U.S. and hopefully sooner than later and many are saying the cars pioneering design and ground-breaking concept just may become the benchmark for small cars to come!

Outsmarting the Smart

Squeezing our 6-foot-3 frame behind the thick, sporty steering wheel of the 2009 Toyota iQ, we immediately notice just how spacious the cabin feels. Only when you're standing outside the Toyota iQ do you realize how short it is, less than 10 feet long from the tip of the front bumper to the end of the back bumper.

Due to be unveiled at the 2008 Paris Auto Show on October 2, the 2009 Toyota iQ is a kind of four-passenger Smart car. It's so innovative in its concept, packaging and design that it might just become the new yardstick for small cars.

When we drove this vision of the future here in Japan, we couldn't help but think that the massive influence of Toyota will tip the balance in favor of minimalist cars like the iQ and make them mainstream transportation instead of high-fashion indulgence.

When it goes on sale in Japan in mid-October and then Europe a couple months later, the 2009 Toyota iQ could become Japan's answer to the Fiat 500, the Smart Fortwo and Volkswagen up!

The Smart Answer ?
While we're looking at an array of iQs in every color, the car's chief engineer Hiroki Nakajima tells us, "Our aim was not to make a four-seater Smart. In order to ensure a sustainable future, there was a need for a radical change in vehicle packaging. We needed to create a breakthrough car, away from the traditional belief that small is basic."

Overlooked at its first appearance as a concept car at the 2007 Frankfurt Auto Show, the Toyota iQ reflects Toyota's awareness of the way in which Europe is leading automotive trends these days. "All you ever hear these days in Europe is people talking about CO2. It's at the forefront of every discussion about motoring," says Nakajima.

The iQ is all about reducing the size of one's automotive carbon footprint. If you think the Toyota Yaris is small, wait until you get a load of this. Toyota says the all-new iQ microcar is the smallest four-passenger car in the world. That it may be, as long as the fourth passenger is knee high to a grasshopper. Thanks to some nifty packaging, the iQ will seat three adults comfortably, but the fourth space is basically reserved for one ankle-biter.

The 2009 Toyota iQ is considerably smaller than a Yaris but marginally bigger than a Smart, measuring just 117.5 inches in length, 66.1 inches in width and 59 inches in height. It has the face of a disgruntled puppy, although it surprisingly boasts greater on-road presence than initial pictures suggest thanks to slightly flared wheel arches and blistered bumpers, which give the contours some substance. The wheelbase stretches an amazing 79 inches to maximize interior volume, although it creates arguably the world's shortest front and rear overhangs in the process.

When we asked Koichi Suga, the head of the iQ's design team, to tell us about the most difficult challenge of creating a car less than 10 feet long, he responded, "That's got to be R&D. Because the more you try to develop a car, improve its handling and its safety, the longer it gets." As he notes, such a small package seems to sacrifice not only seating space (and comfort) but also crushable impact protection.

But it was here where Toyota's engineers really shone. The men in white coats came up with six packaging tricks.

The first is a newly developed compact differential for this front-wheel-drive car, which by itself adds more than 4 inches to the length of the interior cabin in comparison to the Toyota Yaris. In addition, radically angled rear suspension dampers and a flat fuel tank fit under the rear seats to further improve interior space. The steering column comes out of the center of the car and the dash is asymmetrical, while the seatbacks are especially slim. Even the air-conditioning unit packaged within the dash is 20 percent smaller.

Toyota's new microcar boasts no fewer than nine airbags, including a driver's knee bag, a passenger seat under-thigh bag (to prevent submarining under the seatbelt in a frontal impact), and the first-ever rear curtain airbag. Despite its small size, the 2009 Toyota iQ is expected to receive a five-star safety rating in the European NCAP testing.

People Packaging
Though the iQ is just 9.8 feet long and 5.5 feet wide, the cabin of this preproduction car feels remarkably spacious, even for our Australian-size frame. The generous distance from your eye across the top of the dash to the steeply angled windshield adds to the feeling of interior spaciousness, so the iQ feels at least one class bigger and one class more luxurious than it actually is. Interior quality and trim level are high, especially the center console, which has been artfully modeled in the shape of a manta ray.

The seats are comfortable and available with either cloth upholstery or partial leather. The asymmetrical dashboard helps move the front passenger forward enough to accommodate an adult in the rear seat. Of course, the space behind the driver is so small that it is relegated to shopping bags or a small child.

This minimalist car doesn't have a telescoping steering wheel or even a height adjustment for the driver seat, so the limit of comfort is exceeded by any driver taller than 5-foot-10. And you would not want to be any taller than 5-foot-10 in the backseat either. That said, you can travel short distances in relative comfort.

Let's Motor, Japanese-Style

The 2009 Toyota iQ is really meant to enhance Toyota's presence in Europe, and this market will get the choice of an iQ with either a 1.0-liter inline-3 with a five-speed manual transmission or a turbocharged 1.4-liter inline-4 diesel with a six-speed manual. In mid-2009, a 1.3-liter inline-4 with variable valve timing will become available, and it'll feature either the six-speed manual or a continuously variable transmission (CVT). Meanwhile, Japan will get the 1.0-liter inline-3 matched with a CVT.


Details about these drive trains are still being held back by the Toyota engineers, but we're told to expect "pretty much the same power and torque as now, while achieving better mileage and cleaner emissions." This means we can expect the 1.0-liter to produce around 70 horsepower at 6,000 rpm and 69 pound-feet of torque at 3,600 rpm. The 1.4-liter turbo diesel will generate approximately 89 hp.

Given that the iQ's main market is Europe, you'd expect perky performance and firm handling. Although we only got access to a preproduction version of the 1.0-liter gasoline-powered car fitted with a CVT, it was obvious that Toyota had worked hard to give the iQ plenty of straight-line stability as well as precise cornering traits. While the 1.0-liter will win no sprint tests, as it takes more than 14 seconds to get anywhere near 60 mph, the engine is smooth and the CVT responsive, although a little noisy.

Surprisingly, you're not aware of the Toyota iQ's short-coupled wheelbase when you're traveling at speed, as the car stays poised and firmly planted on the ground. With MacPherson struts in front and a simple torsion beam axle doing suspension duty in the rear, the handling of this 1,962-pound car seems predictable with the expected under steer. It could stand more communication from the steering, and while the 175/65R15 Bridgestone Ecopedia tires might offer low rolling resistance to maximize fuel economy, we feel that most people would give up 2 mpg for better handling and grip, even though the car's top speed is only 95 mph. There's talk in the Japanese press that the Euro-spec iQ turbo diesel might combine more torque, a more aggressive suspension and better tires, so this might be the right model to drive.

Source [www.edmunds.com by Peter Lyon] [www.autospies.com]

The Sustainability Quotient

So is the 2009 Toyota iQ really ahead of the game? How fuel-efficient and squeaky clean is it compared to its competition in Europe?

According to one Toyota engineer, the 1.0-liter iQ should record 54.1 mpg on the European driving cycle while pumping out 99g/km of CO2. The 1.4 turbo diesel is expected to attain 52.3 mpg and generate about 106g/km of CO2.

But one look at the larger European-spec VW Polo Bluemotion 1.4 TDI and Seat Ibiza 1.4 TDI diesel variants, which Toyota says are its rivals, puts the tiny Toyota's achievements into perspective. The 80-hp Polo and Ibiza turbo diesels also deliver 99g/km of CO2 yet produce better fuel economy figures of more than 61 mpg. So it might be that the European reception for the 2009 Toyota iQ won't be very strong, especially if you remember that the Euro-spec Toyota Prius' 54.7 mpg and 104g/km were not impressive enough to generate the same kind of hybrid boom that we saw here in the U.S.

To conquer diesel dominance in Europe, Toyota will have to offer not only reliable, superbly packaged and well-conceived vehicles at the right price, but also will have to take a decisive lead in fuel economy and CO2 emissions. And though the iQ has given the tree a damn good shaking with its superb packaging, it remains to be seen whether it can dislodge the European compact diesels.

Will the expected $13,000 price of the 2009 Toyota iQ be cheap enough to steal buyers away from the segment leaders like the VW Polo?

Only time will tell if the iQ will be the breakthrough in the European market that Toyota is hoping for.

Edmunds attended a manufacturer-sponsored event, to which selected members of the press were invited, to facilitate this report.

Source [www.edmunds.com by Peter Lyon] [www.autospies.com]









 
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#2 ·
Sigh, pricing these cars in the mid-teens will always result in a cheap interior product feel like the Smart has. No sunroof option is a deal breaker. It'll be difficult to get me out of my Smart Brabus cabrio for a car with a solid tin roof.

Despite Top Gear scoffing at the Aston Martin Cygnet version of the IQ, there is a small market of people (including myself) that aren't looking to compare the sticker price between the iQ with the slightly bigger xA. These manufacturers follow the logic that price should reflect the size of the vehicle which I guess makes sense but damn can't we get a limited edition vehicle every once in a while? Mini-Cooper learned this from the start. Why can't supermini vehicles follow such a concept?
 
#25 ·
Yeah, not only was it an old story, but the car lost a little in the translation from concept to production. The interior is (at least the ones I saw in the EU) VERY cheap.

I drove my smart to the Denver Auto Show this year. So I had a fresh reference of the room I have in the smart vs. the Scion/Toyota iQ or even the Fiat 500.

The iQ, I can technically fit in the car and be comfortable, but I sacrifice the ability to see to my left (b pillar).

The Fiat 500, I found my knee pushed into the dash and my head through the roof (good thing it was open at the time). I took the liberty of commenting about the roominess of my smart upon exiting the Fiat.

I also had trouble with the Jeeps and the Chevy Cruze. They are just not making roomy vehicles these days.
I think you're right. If you fit in the 500 OK, but I don't think it's one of the most spacious cars out there -- the 450 I got has more room, plus what make it worse is that it has the more traditional Italian driving position where you kind of crunched a bit forward. I fit though, so I'm go to go with the Abarth.:D
 
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Even if it's not a new story, and not the first time we've seen it - it's still an interesting subject. It's amazing how much the drivetrain has in common with the smart. But it sure fails in one respect, unless the reviewer isn't giving it a fair shake - if anyone beyond 5'10" won't be comfortable driving it, boy do WE have that beat in our smart Fortwo! Since he talks about "squeezing" his 6'3" frame into the car, I think he's speaking from experience though.
 
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if anyone beyond 5'10" won't be comfortable driving it, boy do WE have that beat in our smart Fortwo!
What's odd is I read a recent mediocre article in the Chicago Tribune that said the Smart is 55" tall while the iQ is 59" tall, so I guess the seat is much higher off the ground in the iQ.

Also of interest was the turning radius of 28.6' for the Smart yet a mere 12.8' for the iQ.

Think small: Scion's subcompact iQ set to hit U.S. in early 2011 - Page 2 - Chicago Tribune
 
#7 ·
Could the difference be in terminology? As I understand it (and I could certainly be wrong) a "turning circle" is actually not a radius, it's a diameter. "Turning Radius" is usually used incorrectly to also mean "turning diameter."

Is it possible that the smart's 28' is actually the diameter and the 17' of the Camry is actually the radius (thus making it have a 34' turn diameter, 6' wider than the smart?)
 
#13 · (Edited)
The Toyota iQ for 2009, is a kind of a four-passenger Smart For Four.
No, really? :rolleyes:

According to official news from Toyota, one should expect a base price of somewhere in mid teens (I can see the overpriced comments now) and fuel mileage in the mid 30s.

There is literally 0 boot space

The iQ misses the smart mark by a wide margin



And while I normally don't judge safety on looks, I don't see really anything protecting the rear occupants' heads from a rear collision. Airbags are only good to a certain point...
 
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And while I normally don't judge safety on looks, I don't see really anything protecting the rear occupants' heads from a rear collision. Airbags are only good to a certain point...
The video mentions 9 airbags. This leads me to believe the structural integrity is not going to be all that supportive in a collision - so more airbags are required to soften the blow and protect against deformation.

I think I read somewhere that smart is adding two more.
 
#14 ·
I've actually been following this car for some time now. I even attempted to import one from Japan before buying my second smart :p

It will be interesting to see where it fits in with the rest of the cars. I don't think it really competes with the smart, despite the fact that it is constantly compared with it. Smart is a brand in and of itself, like mini. The iQ is just another option for those interested in a small economy machine.

Honestly, if the price remains in the upper teens, I think most people will opt for the Fit, Fiesta, Aveo, or even Toyotas own Yaris which starts under $13,000.

Still I think it's great to see more small cars coming over here.
 
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We viewed (but were not allowed inside of) the IQ this spring, and were underwhelmed by what we saw. Front seating looked tight, rear seating was tight, and the inside of the all-black interior show car was under-illuminated within (never a good sign when they claim to be showing off a new model). It was a very high-tech display (lots of loud music and flashing lights) but low information all the same.

However, it looked like the main reason behind the whole dog-and-pony show was to feature the "all-new" Scion tC, rather than to really let anyone examine the iQ. In either case, the whole showcase left these longtime Toyota buyers underwhelmed.
 
#20 ·
I found the video Neon posted very interesting. The guy said he's 6' tall, and there were obviously a few inches of space above his head. I wish he had shown what the passenger seat looks like when the seat behind it is folded down - I have a feeling it would be much more challenging to be a front passenger with the rear seat folded down. I suspect the rear seats are little more than a gimmick to make the car seem larger on paper and in conversation. We might even have more storage space than the iQ - since the seat behind the driver can't even fold down all the way - all it can do is tilt forward a bit. I'm still proud of getting a grocery cart's worth of stuff in the back, WITH my dear wife sitting comfortably up front, in our smart!

BUT, I also agree with jayskulls - it's nice to have any other small car here in the USA.

First I loved how smart was represented (in the background) at the auto show where the guy was reviewing the iQ, THEN I hated how he threw in a negative comment about the smart right at the end! Buttmunch.
 
#24 ·
I drove my smart to the Denver Auto Show this year. So I had a fresh reference of the room I have in the smart vs. the Scion/Toyota iQ or even the Fiat 500.

The iQ, I can technically fit in the car and be comfortable, but I sacrifice the ability to see to my left (b pillar).

The Fiat 500, I found my knee pushed into the dash and my head through the roof (good thing it was open at the time). I took the liberty of commenting about the roominess of my smart upon exiting the Fiat.

I also had trouble with the Jeeps and the Chevy Cruze. They are just not making roomy vehicles these days.
 
#26 ·
The local toyota megadealer says the plans to import the Scion IQ, renamed for the US market are permanently on hold due to economic conditions in the USA.

Vaporware is a great way to make them drool. Remember the old days of Penske holding back the Smarts to make them drool and NOT bicker over the price, which ruined Smart sales here?
 
#27 ·
Vaporware is a great way to make them drool. Remember the old days of Penske holding back the Smarts to make them drool and NOT bicker over the price, which ruined Smart sales here?


Wow dude, you really need to pull your head out of that black hole you've stuffed yourself into. Penske went to smart several times in '08 BEGGING them for more cars. He knew he could sell a lot more than he was getting. I thought he did the honorable thing by holding prices and not letting the dealerships mark up the cars. They could have very easily done that.

The reason he couldn't get any more cars was because of France's screwed up labor laws. smartville runs a two shift operation, and to add an additional shift would have required a lot of additional personel, which given the labor laws in France, are almost impossible to lay off or terminate once volume slows down. It would have been a death blow to smart when the economy went down the tubes. smart & Diamler knew the demand wasn't sustainable over the long term and therefore lived with the few lost sales to keep the plant healthy.



Dang it..... there I go, feeding the trolls again.....:)
 
#29 ·
My 500 is over one year old, now. Not any issues. Saw another smart car traded in yesterday for a 500 at the 500 studio. Thought it was my car, blue and silver 09, 49k miles. Really beat up. Leather interior look bad too, for a car so young.

Give you VW a couple years!:eek:
 
#31 ·
The old owner, didn't car about this used smart car, at all. My little smart has 2k miles less miles on it. A 08 model, and driven by my 22 year daughter. Its still looks new. It's at least taken care of. Roof still looks brand new too.

Even after they detail that used smart on the lot. It just looked very tried, and scratched up inside and out. Faded interior too. Looked like it wasn't garaged.
 
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