Another smart Fatality

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tvengineer

Discussion Starter · Feb 21, 2011 (Edited by Moderator)

Just outside of New Orleans..

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at least.. so far... the comments on the article are not too bad....
but the commentors on NOLA.Com are a particularly ignorant bunch.

Louis
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smartcar111

· #2 · Feb 21, 2011 (Edited by Moderator)

Another Smart Fatality

SLIDELL, La. ― A man driving a smart car died late Sunday night after his car flipped and came to a rest on lanes of oncoming-traffic on Interstate 10 in St. Tammany Parish.

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Troopers said alcohol is suspected to be a factor in the crash, but a toxicology report will give officials a definitive answer.
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smartcar111

· #3 · Feb 21, 2011

Mods, according to the posting rules, I'm not allowed to post fatalities so do with this thread as you wish.

JPaul

· #4 · Feb 21, 2011

Since the name of the victim is mentioned we should abstain posting it, at least until either it's cleared in the media by some next of kin, or we find an independent source that doesn't mention name.
It's the local media privilege (or MO) to post names, it's not ours to rely the info.

ClearwaterZiggy

· #5 · Feb 21, 2011

JPaul said:
Since the name of the victim is mentioned we should abstain posting it, at least until either it's cleared in the media by some next of kin, or we find an independent source that doesn't mention name.
It's the local media privilege (or MO) to post names, it's not ours to rely the info.

I read the article before it was edited... can we at least make it known that the article stated that alcohol was involved? I really dislike seeing "Another smart fatality" when it was really "Another drunk fatality who happened to be driving a smart".

Ziggy...
:smartje.bl.zw:

jwight

· #6 · Feb 21, 2011

Without the tox results the alcohol involvement is speculation at this point.

Smartdavis

· #7 · Feb 21, 2011

Smart-fatality sounds like an oxymoron.

forestacademy

· #8 · Feb 21, 2011

Smartdavis said:
Smart-fatality sounds like an oxymoron.

Driving Drunk in a smart sounds like a oxymoron

MB DNA

· #9 · Feb 21, 2011 (Edited by Moderator)

While tox reports can't be back, interesting to see the posting by;

TFC Nick Manale
Public Affairs Unit Troop L
Louisiana State Police

Full text, names withheld:

Slidell, Louisiana – Fatal Crash on I-10 Claims Mississippi Man
Posted on February 21, 2011 by admin
Mississippi Man succumbs to Injuries following I-10 Crash

Slidell – Last night at 10:25 pm, Louisiana State Police Troop L investigated a two vehicle crash on Interstate 10 at the U.S. 190 overpass in St. Tammany Parish.

The crash occurred as a 2009 Smart SRS car was traveling eastbound on Interstate 10 when, for unknown reasons, it drifted to the left impacting the eastbound guardrail on the U.S. 190 overpass. The Smart car then continued east on the left shoulder for approximately 125 feet before crossing the center median and impacting the westbound lane’s guardrail causing it to overturn and flip several times. As the Smart car came to rest across the westbound lanes of Interstate 10, it was impacted by a 2011 Hyundai SUV traveling westbound in the center lane.

The driver of the Smart car, J*** L*** (W/M age 23) of P***, MS, was transported to the Ochsner Northshore Medical Center with serious injuries. On February 20, 2011, Troop L was notified by the St. Tammany Parish Coroner’s Office that L*** had been pronounced dead as a result of his injuries. L*** was wearing a seatbelt at the time of the crash and alcohol use is suspected to be a factor.

The driver of the 2011 Hyundai, S*** C*** of N***, LA, received minor injuries in the crash and was transported to Slidell Memorial Hospital. C*** was wearing her seatbelt and alcohol use is not suspected.

A blood sample from both drivers was obtained and sent to the Louisiana State Police Crime Lab for analysis.

Contact Information:

TFC Nick Manale
Public Affairs Unit Troop L
Louisiana State Police
Office: (985) 893-6250
[email protected]

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Kermit

· #10 · Feb 21, 2011

Alcohol -

Of course we'll have to see what the BAT results are before really saying mean things. Sad thing anyhow. I am hugely against drinking, at least there weren't any innocent bystander fatalities.

smartcar111

· #11 · Feb 21, 2011

Being very tired at the wheel is also big at creating accidents. My friend had a similar experience when he was getting tired at the wheel.

Smart Enuf

· #12 · Feb 21, 2011

Maybe I'm behind the times, but what's a "smart SRS car?" Is that a previously unknown trim package, somewhere between Pure and Passion perhaps?

JPaul

· #13 · Feb 21, 2011

Smart Enuf said:
Maybe I'm behind the times, but what's a "smart SRS car?" Is that a previously unknown trim package, somewhere between Pure and Passion perhaps?

SRS: Secondary Restraint System (like airbags).

Smart Enuf

· #14 · Feb 21, 2011

JPaul said:
SRS: Secondary Restraint System (like airbags).

I figured that's what it meant, but why would the police report point that out ("...as a 2009 Smart SRS car was traveling eastbound") like a secondary restraint system was unique to the smart or like it was a special feature on this particular smart? Especially since it's required on all passenger cars? It's like saying a "smart TBL car" (for third brake light).

BobDiaz

· #15 · Feb 22, 2011

I'm never happy to hear of an accident, much less a death.

This brings the total to 5 known and verified deaths in the USA. Keep in mind that if the smart fortwo had an average safety record, the number would be around 10 deaths.

Bob Diaz

GetSmrt28277

· #16 · Feb 22, 2011

Smart Enuf said:
Maybe I'm behind the times, but what's a "smart SRS car?" Is that a previously unknown trim package, somewhere between Pure and Passion perhaps?

I was asking myself the same thing on the SRS. What JPaul posted is what I can up with so far. I'm still looking.

vwW12

· #17 · Feb 22, 2011

BobDiaz said:
This brings the total to 5 known and verified deaths in the USA. Keep in mind that if the smart fortwo had an average safety record, the number would be around 10 deaths.

Bob, thanks for keeping track of this. I insist is a very important datapoint.

tvengineer

Discussion Starter · #18 · Feb 22, 2011

BobDiaz said:
I'm never happy to hear of an accident, much less a death.

This brings the total to 5 known and verified deaths in the USA. Keep in mind that if the smart fortwo had an average safety record, the number would be around 10 deaths.

Bob Diaz

The one and only reason that I posted the original article.. was so that Bob Diaz would have the data... sorry if I impinged on the rules of the forum.. but I wanted Bob to have accurate data on the safety of smart.

Louis

pack smart

· #19 · Feb 22, 2011

I did not read the article nor do not know any details. That said, my condolence to the family and families involved.

I trust other drivers everyday with my life on the road with any of our vehicles and dare anyone to check my logic of purchasing a smart.

I would imagine this is in the local newspaper along with commentary?

My advice is to ask anyone who questions the smart to reveal behind his or her commentary the year/make/model of vehicle he or she drives and I will be happy to question his or her decisions in order to make them look like an absolute idiot.

I promise to ask a few questions and I am always fair.

smartcar111

· #20 · Feb 22, 2011

tvengineer said:
The one and only reason that I posted the original article.. was so that Bob Diaz would have the data... sorry if I impinged on the rules of the forum.. but I wanted Bob to have accurate data on the safety of smart.

Louis

PM's work nicely

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