Umm you may have to thank ME! Check out my earlier post my NY friend. And you can see I also went thru NY Smart hell. I wrote a letter to corporate. Corporate was VERY consumer friendly. I guess they are big picture folks and realize Smart owners are also free sales agents and need to keep their sales people happy. They agreed that I should NOT have paid for my battery. And said they will replace it with a stronger battery (which, before my complaint, NY Smart said there wasn't such a battery available!)Results parked car two days below freezing temps and I was dead every time. The last straw was when I went out of town parked at the airport and when I returned I was dead the lot attendent did not know where the battery was so here I was with him driving out to my car to jump start it.
I left the car and I guess all the stars and planets aligned because two hrs later he told me my car was ready and that they had replaced the Battery with one twice the size and cranking amps.
Brought our smart to the dealer last week (January 20) after the 3rd jump for a dead battery. SA mentioned the factory had not released a "fix" for the battery failure. I had the dealer keep the smart over the weekend, outside in the cold. SA called Monday morning - "the battery is being replaced with a larger/stronger one and it should arrive Tuesday (January 27) morning". Battery arrived yesterday, but without a "hold down" strap - on backorder. Now I have a smart with a weak battery.
Sorry for the long rant - but it looks like the factory has not found an answer for this bug other than to install stronger batteries. As soon as I get a receipt for the warranty replacement, I will post the "op code" to use with your dealer.
Love the smart - hate the downtime.
Many thanks to Donald for his input and feedback.Re: Optima 34R
Factors to consider;
The only (In my opinion) benefit from the Smart dealer offered Interstate battery is, No charge to you (In the short term). How much does the H8 weigh? . . . . . . . If you do except it, insist on keeping the original hold-down.
The Optima is 10"L-6.8"W-7"H, 38.8 lbs. 800CCA 1000CA.
6 yr Warranty, 3 years full n/c replacement, 3 yr prorated. National dealer network for warranty. No gassing, No corrosion, Never have to check electrolyte level.
A big reason for wanting the maximum Capacity battery is:
Referring to the maximum ampere output of a battery (Which decreases with age from new );
1. 100% @ 80 deg F IE 720CCA
2. 60% of 80 deg @ 32 deg F = 432 CCA
3 40% of 80 deg @ 0 deg F = 288 CCA
Ask your dealer: "How many amps is the 'Starter ampere draw of the Smart @ 80 - 60 - 0 deg? ". This is not taking into consideration the increased drag ( increased ampere draw) from cold oil and transmission fluid and friction.
I could continue, but it gets technical.
Letters are coming in these days.I received a letter dated March 11 advising me that I was entitled, as a 2008 model year owner, to an transmission upgrade (I believe it is software) to the 2009 operating mode. When I called about it I was told that I was also entitled to shifter lubrication and a battery replacementupgrade. Since I have already replaced the battery I am not sure what they will do, but I do find it interesting that the battery issue was to be handled while doing a transmission software update. Has anyone else received a letter or gone thru the update yet? Please advise. If not I will post my results after I go.
Rich,Forgot to mention in my previous post, that once a battery is pulled all the way down, and held in that condition for a period of time (not long) often a cell or cells will be weaken. This will result in the pull down period being shorter and shorter until it won't hold a charge at all. Bitter experience has taught me that once a battery is pulled down, its a good idea to start looking for a replacement, if its in a vehicle you need to depend on.