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There is no mention of the Diesel Smart making it to the US market in the first year (ie 2008) but with the great success of not only the diesel market right now but also the diesel smart in Canada, look for the diesel model smart fortwo to make it to the US in 09 or 10 when the smart market needs another boost of sales and energy to its lifespan.

NO word yet on any imported cdi models either but this is something I am looking in to right now!
 

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I'm on my 3rd diesel. I will be seriously dissapointed if Smart fails to market an existing product here. If and when they do I'll be in line.
 

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I keep a Smart diesel, passion convertible, at my home in Canada. I am US with a vacation home in Canada and intend to buy a US Smart. I feel Mercedes is really missing the boat by not offering the diesel. I routinely get 70mpg and the engine is peppy enough when I paddle shift. This type of auto should be offered with Mercedes Blu-Tec diesel technology with zero emissions with better performance/mileage/durability than a comparable gasoline engine.

I cannot import my Smart because it cannot be EPA/DOT modified by G&K. I spoke to them and they would be glad to make the investment in the equipment to certify diesels but Mercedes has not made the 2008 Smart available with a diesel engine. Stupid move!

I hope they realize the value of having the Smart/Diesel as the car of choice.

Michael

My regular cars are an 2005 E320 CDI, and a 1982 300CD.
 

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I just don't understand the hesitance here? The new diesels are just better...

I for one am waiting for this great little car, when it's packen a DIESEL...

I'm driving an old 1990 Ford Festiva, Fuel injection 5 speed that gets 43-48 MPG...So I probably will wait for the fuel efficient Diesel...;)

Why can't I import a smart diesel from Canada, Hamptonsman why can't it be EPA/DOT modified? I would love to get the early body style with diesel!
Although the new body style isn't my personal favorite, it wouldn't stop me from purchasing an 08' smartcar diesel...The new diesel is IMPRESSIVE!

Shane...
 

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EURO diesels

I just got back from vacation in Switzerland where I rented a Lancia Yipsilon diesel. It was very comfortable (and seats 4 adults) and got over 60 mpg with peppy acceleration. The new euro diesels are truly impressive and will sell like hotcakes if they are brought over to the USA IMO.
 

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Diesel Smart Canadian now living in Virginia

I keep a Smart diesel, passion convertible, at my home in Canada. I am US with a vacation home in Canada and intend to buy a US Smart. I feel Mercedes is really missing the boat by not offering the diesel. I routinely get 70mpg and the engine is peppy enough when I paddle shift. This type of auto should be offered with Mercedes Blu-Tec diesel technology with zero emissions with better performance/mileage/durability than a comparable gasoline engine.

I cannot import my Smart because it cannot be EPA/DOT modified by G&K. I spoke to them and they would be glad to make the investment in the equipment to certify diesels but Mercedes has not made the 2008 Smart available with a diesel engine. Stupid move!

I hope they realize the value of having the Smart/Diesel as the car of choice.

Michael

My regular cars are an 2005 E320 CDI, and a 1982 300CD.
Hi guys: I am new to this ListServe and a bit desperate because we have moved to the US, with our diesel Smart (same car as yours Mr Hamptonsman - and we love it of course**- and 1) I am discovering as Hamptonsman did that our only choice is to leave it in Canada (? how totally odd) so not sure how long i can continue to drive it here on Ontario plates and 2) I NEED an oil change and for the life of me I cannot find anywhere the techs for the oil filter (I have found a longsuffering Mazda service dealer who is willing to change the oil if he can find a source for the filter ...but he couldn't find the specs in the manual either)

Sorry to be so dumb about this; can anyone help a Canadian damsel in vehicular distress....?

Thanks
 

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Hi guys: I am new to this ListServe and a bit desperate because we have moved to the US, with our diesel Smart (same car as yours Mr Hamptonsman - and we love it of course**- and 1) I am discovering as Hamptonsman did that our only choice is to leave it in Canada (? how totally odd) so not sure how long i can continue to drive it here on Ontario plates and 2) I NEED an oil change and for the life of me I cannot find anywhere the techs for the oil filter (I have found a longsuffering Mazda service dealer who is willing to change the oil if he can find a source for the filter ...but he couldn't find the specs in the manual either)

Sorry to be so dumb about this; can anyone help a Canadian damsel in vehicular distress....?

Thanks
Here's a link to a K&N filter which may work for you:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=E-9257

Recommend you post your question separately in the 450 section as well, and also on the Canadian site, www.clubsmartcar.ca :)
 

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The US has new regulations that make new diesels excessively difficult to get certified. Both of the existing processes are somewhat cumbersome and expensive, and neither will fit easily into a smart car.

A similar problem is about to exist in Europe, which until now has been diesel-happy. Their new regulations kick in over the next few years and will bring them up to (and eventually surpass) the US regulations. As I recall, even the current US-approved Mercedes Bluetec system won't meet the upcoming European regulations, so everyone is scrambling to figure out something that will work.

The Canadian 450 diesels don't pass even the old US diesel regulations, which is why they cannot be imported into the US.

The smart microhybrid only improves mileage by 10-15%. The 89 mpg hybrid that I suspect bentoutofshape is talking about is the VW Golf diesel hybrid concept that was shown at the Geneva auto show. Fantastic application of technology, but VW hasn't committed to making it at all yet, let alone to importing it for the US.
 

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Diesel

I got a call from my Smart dealer that my car had arrived today... Went to take a look at it, and was definitely cool... however, at 41mpg highway, it really falls short of the 60mpg I get right now in my Jetta TDI... Here's hoping the Smart USA people read these message boards and will consider bringing the a Smart Diesel over, even if it's only a special order option!
 

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With diesel now nearing $4.50 here in Los Angeles, the EPA requirements for NOx being nearly impossible to meet and the overall status of the US Dollar vs the Euro, I don't expect the diesel to be do-able in the USA anytime soon.
 

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The VW diesel is far cleaner.

Engine has to be engineered from the beginning to meet the new standards and the smart diesel wasn't.
 

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EPA standards are going to get tougher too now. Not sure what the manufacturers are going to do about it but my guess is that hybrids are going to be more common than diesels, with the goal of having far more pure electrics.
 

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EPA standards are going to get tougher too now. Not sure what the manufacturers are going to do about it but my guess is that hybrids are going to be more common than diesels, with the goal of having far more pure electrics.
Not sure how Hybrids will help unless we all drive in the city. At Hyway speeds they are not all theat impressive. And At true Hyway speeds they get even worse.
 

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Not sure how Hybrids will help unless we all drive in the city. At Hyway speeds they are not all theat impressive. And At true Hyway speeds they get even worse.
I would not be at all surprised to see new rules and regulations limiting horsepower and acceleration on combustion engines. It's the next logical step. I remember the days when you couldn't drive over 55 mph. Here we go again.
 
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