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I just recently had my HV battery replaced at 13,500 miles on a 2016 451, under warranty. I am now curious as to what to expect for the life expectancy of my car. Is there a standard life expectancy for these cars? Or is it just a crap-shoot? I should note, I love driving the car and plan to drive it until it dies or becomes so undependable that it is not worth the effort.
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Do you have a "back story" on what happened to necessitate the HV battery being replaced under warranty? Warranty - OEM or BAP? Was the 12V battery a contributing factor?

Remember that our 451 ED is a very low volume niche vehicle with limited range thus it is hard to equate a "standard" life expectancy in miles or years? Although the failures are few, a bricked HV battery will usually kill the vehicle as the replacement cost can be higher than the vehicle value.

This is made an even bigger "crap-shoot" by the fact that there are few Euro mechanics with EV/smart experience and our friendly M-B/smart dealer would prefer that we just GO AWAY!
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I am now curious as to what to expect for the life expectancy of my car. Is there a standard life expectancy for these cars? Or is it just a crap-shoot?
This is a question that should have been asked BEFORE you bought your smart ED?

My friend, you (we) are participating in a grand EV experiment.

For smart ED that includes Daimler closing up ALL smart Centers in the U.S.

There is no “standard life expectancy” for a smart ED, only the “crap-shoot” that you suggest!
So what is the chemistry of the lithium Smart batteries, if anyone has that handy?

If it will be a rebuilt then the chemistry might be somewhat different, hopefully state-of-the-art.
The lithium-ion battery was developed by Deutsche ACCUmotive, a Daimler AG subsidiary specially set up to develop and produce HV batteries.

The battery consists of 93 single cells and no changes nor upgrades have been noted (by recipients of a new HV replacement) over the Gen 3 production cycle?
If MB is re-populating old packs with new prismatic cells then likely they would be using the best available chemistry or even a new cell mfr compared to back in 2013, no?
My SWAG is NO?

Stateside, no smart Center HV replacements have been refurbs, all new. No smart Center replacements have resulted in any change in range being reported which may suggest no change in chemistry nor architecture.

This may be dictated by HAZMAT shipping requirements and smart Centers that are not allowed to open the HV can?? Obviously, across the pond Daimler may employ a different protocol?

As with all things “smart,” more questions than answers...
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