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Why does smart advertise 160 km (100 miles) of range on electricity, but when I google the range it says 58 miles?
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Where does it say 100 miles? Even the window stickers show much less, i.e. around 60 to 70 depending on what model you're looking at. I typically get up to 80 in the summer and 65 or so in the winter.
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I attached a screenshot of the technical data pulled right from smart.com
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If the image doesn’t work, here is the link.
https://www.smart.com/en/en/index/smart-eq-fortwo-453/technical-data.html
https://www.smart.com/en/en/index/smart-eq-fortwo-453/technical-data.html
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Your links go to the smart worldwide site (smart.com) The US site, smartusa.com, lists the range as 58 miles or 93.3 Km. Europe and the US use different methods to calculate range, I believe. 
https://www.smartusa.com/models/eq-pure-coupe
https://www.smartusa.com/models/eq-pure-coupe
And both seem to be somewhat off in opposite directions from the real-world average range.
We really need a sticky forum for range reports...
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Living in the Pacific Northwest and driving a 453 ED we are getting 76 mile range
right now where the temperature in the low 30s at night and high in the upper 40s
during the day.
During the summer the range increases into the mid 90 mile range.
In the US the range is determined by the EPA...
right now where the temperature in the low 30s at night and high in the upper 40s
during the day.
During the summer the range increases into the mid 90 mile range.
In the US the range is determined by the EPA...
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US EPA range is officially 58 miles per one charge but the EPA got a maximum distance of 104.x miles in their lab tests under ideal conditions with ECO mode OFF, so they could have done more with ECO on. (My personal best was about 112-114 in summer with city driving, no A/C, lots of regen braking. Day to day range is ~80 in summer, ~55 in winter for me in Boston)
NEDC (new European Driving Cycle) lists it as 160km/100 mi but that test is known for being very optimistic.
I'm very curious what a smart EQ Fortwo would do for range in a place like Chicago today with in -30F weather. I messaged the smart brand manager in Chicago to see if they're willing to test it out. no reply yet.
NEDC (new European Driving Cycle) lists it as 160km/100 mi but that test is known for being very optimistic.
I'm very curious what a smart EQ Fortwo would do for range in a place like Chicago today with in -30F weather. I messaged the smart brand manager in Chicago to see if they're willing to test it out. no reply yet.
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Some trips I'm easily pulling 80+ miles. Other trips, 58 miles brings the battery gauge pretty low to around 15% or even less. Depends on the conditions, driving styles, weather, etc,.
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We have been able to tweak out 80 miles on nice days that don’t require a/c on our 2015 and as little as 30 on those 0F days with full time heater running
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Similar results here mileage wise, my smart is a 2014
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I get 80 miles on days above 50' generally. It's whenever the temp gets close to 32' that there's a good drop. That onboard battery heater really burns through the watts I guess.
When I see the estimated over 60 I get really cheery. I know it's a great day before I even pull outta the garage.
When I see the estimated over 60 I get really cheery. I know it's a great day before I even pull outta the garage.
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I have only had my 2016 smart ed for a few weeks. I live in the Rio Grande Valley in Texas, just two miles from the Mexican border. The summers are usually around 100 everyday so I have to use my air conditioner all the time. It seems like the air conditioning almost sucks more juice than the traction motor itself. Just wondering with air on all the time what kind of mileage do you guys get. I have never ran battery super low but it gets pretty low, like around 20% after driving only 25 to 30 miles. Yikes. Car only has 4700 miles on it. Is that normal or do I have a problem?
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Ricky - so are you saying it goes down to about 20% from a full charge or from the 80% charge that you have talked about before? I almost never turn my AC on and I get about 80 miles in the summer on a full charge. When I do turn it on, the estimated miles left drops by about 10 miles and pretty much stays there. Hopefully others who use their AC like you do will chime in with their experiences. However, if you are only charging to 80%, take it up to 100%. You're not going to hurt anything.
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Yes I do only charged 80%. I guess I’ve been so paranoid about battery life and battery failure. I’m an old guy and this will be the last car I buy so I’m just hopping in the last few years. I guess I should just do what you say and charge it to 100%. I figured since I live in such an extremely hot climate in the summer charging 100% might be a bad idea.
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