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I'm not a gear head. Loved my Smart Passion Cabriolet and when the check engine light came on I took it right away to my mechanic. He said I should go ahead and drive it, and the next day it was towed to his shop. Now, almost 5 months later, I am in need of a new engine. This is worth more than the cost of the car, so I'm looking at a used one. Does anyone know how much time should be involved with a mechanic removing the old engine and replacing the new? Are there any parts that have a secondary market value that I should hold on to or does it all go to the dump? The only problem it sustained was warped cylinders and I guess because of the way the engine block is made no one redoes those. I could use some info from anyone who knows.

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Had a check engine light on, took it to my mechanic, he checked the code and said it was an evaporative emissions problem, said go ahead and drive it. It died when my wife took it to work next morning. Seems to have warped cylinders. Was told that because they are aluminum with sleeves they are nearly impossible to rebore/resleeve. What do I know about that though, like I said before I'm not a mechanic! New engine costs $12,500. I found a used one, but I'll have to get someone to drop it in and take the old one out. Thought I'd see how many hours I should be looking at for this.
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I'm not a gear head. Loved my Smart Passion Cabriolet and when the check engine light came on I took it right away to my mechanic. He said I should go ahead and drive it, and the next day it was towed to his shop.
George,

Sorry to hear of your misfortune.

Unless he is your uncle, based on the above I would first find ANOTHER mechanic who may be a Euro specialist and ask them the cost to R&R. A good Euro mechanic may also be able to source a used engine for you.

A new replacement engine at $12,500 would be of no interest to me as you will never get your money out of that "investment." eBay or junk yards have engines available in the range of $2-3,000.

Best of luck and do keep us in the loop as to your progress.
 

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OR, you could get a new one?

Loyalty bonus will bring the price down

(make a copy of your current registration before you get rid of the old smart)

0% financing for 60 mo

or lease a new cab for $199/mo?
 

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An engine swap was done at Eurowise in Charlotte. I believe the cost was in the $800 range. Dealer wanted triple that. If you can't find anyone to do it more reasonably in your area, might be worth renting a flatbed or dolly-tow and bringing her down after you have an engine shipped directly to Eurowise. A lot of factors to consider though. It's an excellent shop. They've straightened out stuff for me that the dealer couldn't find and their pricing is very reasonable.
 

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unfortunately we are seeing a number of these, and in a few years, the cost to fix, even for a used smart, will exceed the value of the car. There will be a lot of project cars available VERY cheaply. Jetfuel needs to come up with an actual kit to replace the smart engine with a widely available JDM import. I mean if you got to spend $5 large, I'd rather spend $3.5K on a kit and $1.5 K on a 160 HP JDM engine and have a real sleeper verses driving a grenade. Jetfuel on deck!
 

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Good point KRA, however in certain situations, perhaps it might be a consideration to purchase a breaker engine, check craigslist and interview a few out of work ASE certified techs for $30-$40/hr.
 

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Just remember, what we are seeing here are a few (engines) out of a very few owners (on SCOA) out of a BIG number of owners world wide :)

Wonder what the ROW engine problems are looking like :D
Exactly, don't be alarmed by the recent "wave" of posts.

For the folks who read my "Surprise" thread I only posted it to make others aware of another issue. If everyone posted the daily success of their cars this forum would be cluttered with good and basically the bad would be buried.
 

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at $12,500 for a motor I would say you are better off spending the same money on a replacement car. for about an additional 4-5K you could have a new car. No doubt you could sell the old car out for parts or maybe sell it to someone interested in doing a Haybusa or Toyota conversion.
 

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Does the engine turn over and just not fire?
The check code and the warped cylinder diagnosis doesn't make sense to me...

My '08 is still going strong at 105,000 miles....
 

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Just remember, what we are seeing here are a few (engines) out of a very few owners (on SCOA) out of a BIG number of owners world wide :)

Wonder what the ROW engine problems are looking like :D
I agree, BUT, too many (IMO), and it pretty expensive, anyway you slice it, to put it right; so, my guess is that it won't be long before that Hayabusa project gets a little cheaper to do. It would be interesting to see what the numbers actually are. The fact that it showed up on the known issue list tells me it may not be quite as isolated as we would like.
 
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