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Those of you with the lighting package.
What does that mean "cornering function"?

Are they saying if I turn left the left fog lamp will light up? Or maybe the amber side light on the door lights up until I complete the turn? :shrug:

If I'm right, can you actually tell a difference at night outside the city and if you don't have tinted windows?
 

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When you turn a corner at night the fog light in the direction you are turning, comes on spilling more and wider light to illuminate the sidewalk, driveway or the shoulder of the road.
 

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When you turn a corner at night the fog light in the direction you are turning, comes on spilling more and wider light to illuminate the sidewalk, driveway or the shoulder of the road.
O that is awesome! I am guessing only under a certain mph?
 

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Are you talki9ng about a 451 or the newer 453 ?
OEM = 453

"Cornering lights are (usually) low wide angled beam fog lights that illuminate as you take bends. These just illuminate on the side that you are steering towards to light up kerbs, potholes, white lines and pedestrians. Generally they work when you are at a stand still and between 2 set speeds and only illuminate the lower lights when the steering wheel is rotated passed a certain angle." per our friend Kane @ Evilution.

BUT, here is a 451 solution that Kane has suggested.

SmartKits.net: Luci Svolta ForTwo 451

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This add on isn't just cornering lights. In the same unit you also get:

"Daytime running lights that come on with the ignition and go off when the headlights come on.
This and having them dim is the only legal way to have DRLs function. If they come on with a switch
and not the ignition and don't turn off or dim when the headlights come on, they aren't road legal.

Coming home and leaving home lights that come on when you lock or unlock the car using the key fob. They stay on for 30 seconds to illuminate your way to or from the car and gently fade out."
 

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The best part is on the 453, you can turn on both fog lights by twisting the light stalk, including the rear fog light. We have some days/nights with pretty thick fog... They work.
 

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When the signal is on and your headlamps are on, both fog lamps turn on when your speed is less than 25 MPH
In addition, when you turn the wheel far enough at low speed (likely less than 25 MPH), the fog lamp for that side turns on. It may look like you have a fog light out at first, but it's a useful feature. Interestingly it will still do this when your high beams are on.



It definitely makes a large difference to the visibility on the side. When I turn into the garage (downhill), right when I start turning, the fog lamp lights it up. It also lights up the sidewalk at night when I am turning.
 

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When the signal is on and your headlamps are on, both fog lamps turn on when your speed is less than 25 MPH
In addition, when you turn the wheel far enough at low speed (likely less than 25 MPH), the fog lamp for that side turns on. It may look like you have a fog light out at first, but it's a useful feature. Interestingly it will still do this when your high beams are on.



It definitely makes a large difference to the visibility on the side. When I turn into the garage (downhill), right when I start turning, the fog lamp lights it up. It also lights up the sidewalk at night when I am turning.
While that is an interesting function, why not just leave your fog lights on at night? I do that with each car I have that has fog lights. Makes side road visibility much better, especially on the dark, narrow roads prevalent in our area. Improves safety too.
 

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While that is an interesting function, why not just leave your fog lights on at night? I do that with each car I have that has fog lights. Makes side road visibility much better, especially on the dark, narrow roads prevalent in our area. Improves safety too.


In some states you will get a ticket if you are running fog lights full time, on a clear night. If it is a foggy night, you're OK. One of those states would be Oregon.:shrug:
 

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That’s unfortunate, no such law around here.

I got the ticket a decade ago. On I-5 running through Oregon. I have a customer who OSP officer. He just told me that this is a 'sub-section' of the fog light laws. It only pertains to multiple lane highways, because of glare issues when behind another car. I still use them every night on our twisty canyon/mountain roads!
 

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While that is an interesting function, why not just leave your fog lights on at night? I do that with each car I have that has fog lights. Makes side road visibility much better, especially on the dark, narrow roads prevalent in our area. Improves safety too.
For safety: I'll explain

We humans are lazy. When the fog lights are on they really illuminate the ground right in front of the car, very well I may add. Because that is more visible we tend to look there instead of ahead down the road.
This makes are reaction time worse should we need to brake.

Have you noticed driving a car with HID's inside really good projectors? Notice how the ground in front of the car is dark/black and the road ahead is well lit? That's good lighting technology.
If you google projector cutoff shield it's interesting how it makes the light stay in one position. Anything above the cutoff is black as night. Anything below is well let. Anything very low is dark/dim (IE: the road just in front of the car)
 

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I’ve been using fog lights for decades when traveling on narrow, dark roads with lots of wildlife. Never had a problem of not looking far enough down the road because of fog light use. I’ve always been a fanatic about nighttime illumination with my cars. Never installed illegal wattage headlight bulbs but have always sought out bulbs with excellent “down the road” illumination as well as good peripheral illumination.
 

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I’ve been using fog lights for decades when traveling on narrow, dark roads with lots of wildlife. Never had a problem of not looking far enough down the road because of fog light use. I’ve always been a fanatic about nighttime illumination with my cars. Never installed illegal wattage headlight bulbs but have always sought out bulbs with excellent “down the road” illumination as well as good peripheral illumination.
I am glad someone mentioned this. It's not a conscious thing. Sub-consciously it happens. To everyone. Young and old. There was an article I am having trouble finding in 2014 from the IIHS or NHSTA (can't remember) that started testing lights on vehicles. It's our brain simply NOTICING in our peripheral that the light on the ground right in front of the car is nice and bright.
Think of a horse with blinders on. What the horse doesn't see won't hurt him/scare him. Same with us humans. The more light we "turn off" in front of the vehicle the better we will focus and see down the road ahead.
 

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I feel like this is now the reason why the fogs on a 453 act the way they do. Which is odd. With my 2009 Brabus, I could have the fogs and high beams on at the same time. No idea why, but was nice if you wanted to have a "Wall-of-Light" feeling as you were going down the road. Now, with the 453, Every time i turn the highs on, the fogs turn off. Turn the low beams back on, fogs are still off. So every time i use the high beams, even just to flash mine at someone who has theirs on, the fogs turn off permanently. Main reason i barely ever use the fogs in my 453.
 

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I feel like this is now the reason why the fogs on a 453 act the way they do. Which is odd. With my 2009 Brabus, I could have the fogs and high beams on at the same time. No idea why, but was nice if you wanted to have a "Wall-of-Light" feeling as you were going down the road. Now, with the 453, Every time i turn the highs on, the fogs turn off. Turn the low beams back on, fogs are still off. So every time i use the high beams, even just to flash mine at someone who has theirs on, the fogs turn off permanently. Main reason i barely ever use the fogs in my 453.
Fair point. Every car I've owned that has been a 2014 or newer has been like this as well.
 

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My 1989 Ford SHO, 1992 Mitsubishi 3000 vr4 and my 1996 Chrysler T&C all would turn off the fog lights when the high beams are on.
 
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