No doubt, that's why when the 451 hits 0.0 gal, you still have a bit left in the tank to get you to a petrol station. But it is generally accepted that once you hit 0.0 gal, that's it, the rest that's in the tank is for the fuel pump.I'm thinking the reserve is fuel in the tank when it shows 0.0 gallons. I feel it would suck if as soon as the gauge showed 0.0 the engine cut out.
Awe, you're welcome! I uh, think I spent too much time studying these cars...I probably should work for smart one day in Germany. :xThanks, Neon! I think we all appreciate your active role on this forum!
Not exactly. From what it seems, all 8 solid bars is the 7.4 gallon capacity. When it starts blinking and counting down from 1.3, that's your reserve. And after your reserve, you shouldn't run out of petrol as there should be remaining fuel in the tank for lubrication and margins of error. However, smart won't tell us that comes after 0.0 gal, so who knows how far one could actually go?If Smart is accurately describing their product (and some have doubts,) then the top 7/8 on the fuel gauge should be the 7.4 gallon capacity. This last 1/8 is the reserve, and should be 1.3 gallons more. There is no further reserve, and driving after the gauge registers empty should result in the car stalling for lack of fuel.
It's best to fill during the 1.3 gallon countdown. However, because we really don't know the tank's full size (it took a SCoA member removing the 451's tank and measuring it to confirm the tank's full size of 10 gallons), there's no way of knowing when you'll actually run out of fuel.In particular, the "1.3 countdown" you mention is something I know happens, but I can't observe it explicitly as it happens without using a third party product. I must decide based on intuition and experience when to fill, which will be sometime before this final 1/8th runs dry.
So, assuming the manuals and the advertised tank sizes weren't lying, if you fill your tank when the 1.3 gallon countdown hits 0.0 gallons, the tank is supposed to accept 8.7 gallons. Or, if you fill as soon as it begins flashing the 1.3 gallon countdown, 7.4 gallons.Finally, I don't fully understand the "Gas Tank Fueling Problem" which appears to be mostly a 2016 model issue (I hope.) But I have not filled with much above 6 gallons yet, with the tank at 1/8 or a tad below when I choose to fill. The tank registers full when I finish filling. But 6 gallons is substantially below 7.3!
Depends, if you're filling up as soon as the 1.3 gallon countdown comes on and you're only getting in 6 gallons, then yep your car is impacted by this issue.Is this 6 gallon as opposed to 7.3 gallon issue consistent with what others are calling the "Gas Tank Fueling Problem?" Again, I remind you that after filling the fuel gauge indicates the tank is full.
As always, you're welcome!Your letter, Neon, is a great service to me, and probably to many others coming too late to this discussion. Thank you! In your debt!
I hope someone, someday, does us all a favor and finds out how much is left when it starts blinking, that is, the true capacity of the tank. Perhaps then l'll (gratefully) use the blinking from time to time as an indicator to fill, at least when I'm driving in town. I'll do almost anything to delay filling a gas tank!
So to boil this down. What this is saying is that yes, the petrol tank is in fact 8.7 gallons. However, our reserve tank is 2.9 gallons, leaving us with only 5.8 gallons of usable fuel.''The tank is NOT SMALLER. It's the reservoir that is bigger than indicated by the owner's manual and instrument cluster due to North American Emissions Spec. North American smart vehicles should have approximately 11 liters reservoir (approximately 2.9 gallons). They went on to say that it is at customers own risk if they choose to try and put this theory to test"
A SCoA poster named Suprman drove with 0.0 gallons on the gauge and purposely kept driving until it ran out of gas. Here are the results of Suprman's 453 from Feb 2016: see post number 49 in this different thread http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/forums/f208/2016-gas-gauge-issue-107826/index5.htmlI hope someone, someday, does us all a favor and finds out how much is left when it starts blinking, that is, the true capacity of the tank. Perhaps then l'll (gratefully) use the blinking from time to time as an indicator to fill, at least when I'm driving in town. I'll do almost anything to delay filling a gas tank!
AHHHH!!!! Does anyone know someone I can contact at smart USA who isn't just going to let me get screwed by the dealership?Question: The dealership's tech ruined one of my interior doors with an oil stain. The dealership tried cleaning it, only made it worse. I'm done trying to get it clean, can I just get the panel replaced?
Answer: That'll be up to the dealership.
Question: My car's right door whistles in the wind, it's also visibly crooked. When closed, the panel gap at top is nearly an inch, while the panel gap at the bottom is only a few mm. The dealership keeps saying that they cannot replicate the issue, can I get this fixed?
Answer: That'll be up to the dealership.
Question: So, what am I supposed to do when my dealer doesn't want to help?
Answer: I'd advise you to leave your car with them for several days so they can replicate the wind noise, if they cannot, the door will not be adjusted.
Done.Might want to post this absurd conversation to their FB page?
Hiya!!! I'm a long time lover of smart, so much that I have two of them now! A lovely 2012 passion coupe and an even more lively 2016 Edition #1. However, I am having a bit of an issue here:
My Edition #1 whistles in crosswinds, I've also had the petrol tank replaced as well. Now, normally no big deal, but these problems are persisting.
The dealers I took the car to for the whistling issue said they could not replicate the issue, twice. The passenger door is visibly out of alignment, it's so bad there's a bad panel gap and the door slightly misses the latch when closing. I mean sure, it doesn't whistle when it isn't windy, but the poor alignment should have been enough to adjust it. But they won't.
When I was getting my petrol tank replaced, a dealership tech soiled the inside of my driver's door with oil. The dealership "cleaned" it, but it's still dirty, and they scrubbed it so hard that the fabric is fuzzed up. At this point, I just want the fabric replaced, but the dealer insists on just cleaning it.
I called your customer service number today and I didn't make any progress. In fact, I'd say it was the opposite of helpful. I was effectively told that there's nothing I can do and I'm at the whim of my dealer. The car is visibly defective and they damaged my door, they should make it right????