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New to the smart car world drove nothing but chevy full size diesel trucks bought this 2005 g&k 700cc smart cause i always liked em needs some small adjustments and fixes but runs and looks amazing hope i can get some help on this fourm just like the harley and diesel fourms i am on yall have a good day
 

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Hiya from northern IL!! I'm 40-ish miles north of the city. :)

I have two 2005 G&K smarts and have a STAR machine on hand, so I can help out where needed. What fixes do you need?

I recommend also joining clubsmartcar.com as they have the vast majority of North American 450 owners in one place.

Also sign up for evilution.co.uk as it's essentially the how to guide for everything!
 

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The car needed a crank position sensor i replaced that and it runs like a top now but when in drive weather its auto or manual the car surges at idle it also seems to be idling high at 1500rpm
 

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My 2005 cabrio does that too, but often it's when there's an electrical load like the parking lights or headlights. Once I get the clutch actuator working again, that's the next thing on my list.
 

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This idle surge cant be normal sometimes it will almost stall it out and o thought the idle was set around 900-1k
 

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Oh, it's very much not normal. My 2005 coupe idles at 900-1k no matter what, so there's something your 450 and my 2005 cabrio aren't fond of. Maybe too much resistance in the SAM? I'll investigate once I fix the bigger issue.
 

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All sorted out now the bottom vacume line on the throttlebody flange of the intake manifold came undone slightly now the car idles at 900-1000 no stutter anymore still runs alittle rough gotta order spark plugs and figure out how to change em on this toy car
 

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Awesome! I'll look for the same on my car. :)

There are six plugs to change, here are the instructions!

https://www.evilution.co.uk/index.php?menu=servicing&mod=519 Honestly, the removal process is kinda stupid and it's another reason why my 450s are only spring, summer, fall cars. I'd replace with iridium so you don't have to do this again.
 

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Out of curiosity what would a 2005 g&k smart with 51k on it with all the maintence records and a clean bill of health from the local dealer be worth
 

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I'd say $6-$7k provided the body is clean.
 

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So 2700 was fair then i assume and yeah body only had one small scratch on the lower side skirt
 

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$2,700 is so good that if I didn't already have a 450 coupe, I totally would have been all over that one! lol
 

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Wasnt even in the market for one lady sent it as a joke and i kinda went and bought it lol now on the hunt for an exhaust and somewhere to have it tuned
 
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