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Greetings,

New to the forum. I just bought a used 2013 ED (451) about a week ago with 17k miles on it. So far I love the car, and it runs beautifully. I bought it sort of as an experiment and an Intro to electric vehicle for me. I tried to do a search here, but a I didn't find anything on high miles ED. Has anyone taken their ED up to 50k or 100k miles yet? What are the expected life of these vehicles?

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Greetings,

New to the forum. I just bought a used 2013 ED (451) about a week ago with 17k miles on it. So far I love the car, and it runs beautifully. I bought it sort of as an experiment and an Intro to electric vehicle for me. I tried to do a search here, but a I didn't find anything on high miles ED. Has anyone taken their ED up to 50k or 100k miles yet? What are the expected life of these vehicles?

Thanks!
On a Facebook page dedicated to the smart ED, there are a couple of guys in Europe who report having well over 50k miles, I think one with around 80k miles or so, and only minimal battery degradation of a few percent.

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Sorry to be a doggie downer but one of the folks on the Smart EV FB site just reported complete battery failure at 20K miles. This is the only battery failure report I’ve seen to date.

YMMV
 

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i turned mine in two years ago and just came back with a purchase

When looking I came across a 2013 with 83 k

still charged up to the same level as mine with 8900 miles

i was not going to buy the car, as I wanted a newer one with warranty left on it.

But just talking to the owner, and the fact he had no issues, other then tire changes, and still having the original battery too, made my decision to purchase easier.

Not seeing many battery issues is a good thing long term.
 

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Sorry to be a doggie downer but one of the folks on the Smart EV FB site just reported complete battery failure at 20K miles. This is the only battery failure report I’ve seen to date.

YMMV
Got citation or link?

Not sure how this qualifies as a doggie downer? ALL marquees have failures and accept for a handful of HV batteries reported as failing, the smart ED continues to perform admirably.

And what is the rest of the FB story - original owner, all service performed, was the ED under warranty, was the HV battery rented and thus covered by BAP? :shrug:
 

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Got citation or link?

Not sure how this qualifies as a doggie downer? ALL marquees have failures and accept for a handful of HV batteries reported as failing, the smart ED continues to perform admirably.

And what is the rest of the FB story - original owner, all service performed, was the ED under warranty, was the HV battery rented and thus covered by BAP? :shrug:
The story is that a person purchased a used 2014 ED with 19k miles. The battery failed soon after and it was then made known to the new owner that the vehicle had never been serviced. The issue now is that the new owner paid BAP since his purchase but MB is apparently hesitant to honor the battery warranty due to the previous owner's neglect.

I don't believe this says anything about the battery on the ED other than that neglect can kill it.

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The story is that a person purchased a used 2014 ED with 19k miles. The battery failed soon after and it was then made known to the new owner that the vehicle had never been serviced. The issue now is that the new owner paid BAP since his purchase but MB is apparently hesitant to honor the battery warranty due to the previous owner's neglect.

I don't believe this says anything about the battery on the ED other than that neglect can kill it.

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The owner is responsible for not only paying BAP, but also making the vehicle available for service. Unfortunately not making the vehicle available for service is grounds for BAP being declined if the battery fails. It is a matter of risk.
 

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The owner is responsible for not only paying BAP, but also making the vehicle available for service. Unfortunately not making the vehicle available for service is grounds for BAP being declined if the battery fails. It is a matter of risk.


The case he is speaking of involved a 2nd owner who bought the smart and enrolled in BAP. Then when he had issues he was advised that original owner never did 1 year service thus no BAP warranty even though they let him buy BAP.


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The case he is speaking of involved a 2nd owner who bought the smart and enrolled in BAP. Then when he had issues he was advised that original owner never did 1 year service thus no BAP warranty even though they let him buy BAP.


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Yeah, sorry. I guess writing comprehensively isn't my strong suit.

The second owner purchased the 2014 ED this past June.

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The case he is speaking of involved a 2nd owner who bought the smart and enrolled in BAP. Then when he had issues he was advised that original owner never did 1 year service thus no BAP warranty even though they let him buy BAP.
Thanks to all for filling in some of the "blanks" in this story.

As suggested, there is more to this than simply "complete battery failure at 20K miles."

Begs the question, how can MBFS knowingly allow the buyer to place BAP on a pre-owned lease that was not properly maintained by the original lessee? Seems as though the HV battery should have been "retired" from being BAP eligible? Do they run any HV battery condition tests before making such bonehead decisions?

Not an attorney but M-B needs to be ordering up a replacement battery . . . :popcorn:
 

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thats a great lawsuit
they have to honor, regardless of whats said here
if conditions were met to transfer BAP, then its on Mercedes to Honor.

BAP is an insurance policy. No cost to Mercedes.

This is also a reason that Mercedes got rid of this stand alone program and incorporated into the Car.

Need more info, but this is a winnable fight.

I have a Tesla and cant say enough about the corporation.

If you have an issue they replace it.

Mercedes was a part owner of Tesla in its early stages when they seduced Mercedes by converting a Smart to Electric.

Need to get to the right people with this and it will be taken care of.
 
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