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So I owned a 2009 Passion for years and I put snow tires on it and it was perfect. I took deliver of a Smart 2016 with new all-season Contis Mud and Snow Tires and this thing is stuck in driveway and will not move in only around four inches of snow , which is nothing
Front is 165/65/15 Back is 185/60/15 I had Blizzacks before and want to go with them again but the problem is that there are no 165/65/15 available. I can get four 185/60/15 but Costco will not install the front ones. They tell me I will mess up my car etc I can put two on the back and leave the front ones as all seasonal but they tell me this will solve my snow problem but mess up my steering problem Any ideas please, I see all the posts about switching out tires. Greatful of any help as I have a yard ornament at present Thank you
 

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Get another set of rear rims for the front and go with the Blizzaks. Just put mine on the other day on my 09 - 185/55R15 WS90s. Waiting for snow!
 

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If you can't find it in the local store try browsing online shops. I'm sure their customer support will be willing to assist you in what set of tires to install. I always do this whenever I purchase automotive accessories from 4wheelonline and other stores.
 

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Get another set of rear rims for the front and go with the Blizzaks. Just put mine on the other day on my 09 - 185/55R15 WS90s. Waiting for snow!
Thank you so much. Do you mean you put all 185/65/R15 on all wheels? ( 65 for the 2016 Smart ) I had Blizzaks on my 2009 Smart car and it was ridiculously good in all kinds of snow, I ended up ordering four tires because Costco had a discount deal for four. They wont mount them on the front though.
 

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If you can't find it in the local store try browsing online shops. I'm sure their customer support will be willing to assist you in what set of tires to install. I always do this whenever I purchase automotive accessories from 4wheelonline and other stores.
Thank you , I tried, even called Bridgestone direct and they tried to get me tires for the front but not available . I went with four rear tires I hope I dont mess up anything but otherwise I am going to be in the ditch
 

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Thank you so much. Do you mean you put all 185/65/R15 on all wheels? ( 65 for the 2016 Smart ) I had Blizzaks on my 2009 Smart car and it was ridiculously good in all kinds of snow, I ended up ordering four tires because Costco had a discount deal for four. They wont mount them on the front though.
I have 185/55R15 Blizzak WS90s on all 4 6 inch rims on my 09. Took it out yesterday in 30 degree weather and was amazed at grip. No reason you can't do the185/65R15s all around if you have right sized rims. You'll need a set of rear rims for the front, but they are available. I took it out in the snow this afternoon. Blizzaks are awesome. Traction control kicked in a few times, but 4 inches of snow with ice under, no problem
 

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So I owned a 2009 Passion for years and I put snow tires on it and it was perfect. I took deliver of a Smart 2016 with new all-season Contis Mud and Snow Tires and this thing is stuck in driveway and will not move in only around four inches of snow , which is nothing
Front is 165/65/15 Back is 185/60/15 I had Blizzacks before and want to go with them again but the problem is that there are no 165/65/15 available. I can get four 185/60/15 but Costco will not install the front ones. They tell me I will mess up my car etc I can put two on the back and leave the front ones as all seasonal but they tell me this will solve my snow problem but mess up my steering problem Any ideas please, I see all the posts about switching out tires. Greatful of any help as I have a yard ornament at present Thank you
On the 453, the standard 165/65R15 tire isn't a common size.

To get round this, you could use 175/65R15 front tires and 195/60R15 rear tires. Here's a couple of links to Continental winter tires in these sizes on tirerack.

Continental VikingContact 7 175/65R15 88T

Continental VikiingContact 7 195/60R15 92T

By keeping the tires staggered, you keep the standard safe handling.
 

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I have 185/55R15 Blizzak WS90s on all 4 6 inch rims on my 09. Took it out yesterday in 30 degree weather and was amazed at grip. No reason you can't do the185/65R15s all around if you have right sized rims. You'll need a set of rear rims for the front, but they are available. I took it out in the snow this afternoon. Blizzaks are awesome. Traction control kicked in a few times, but 4 inches of snow with ice under, no problem
Thank you, yes my last Blizzak set were ridiculously good in the snow , I am in the High Rockies in Colorado,
The tire size R15 should fit the current rims Correct? A new set of rims seems expensive? Thank you so much for your trouble
 

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On the 453, the standard 165/65R15 tire isn't a common size.

To get round this, you could use 175/65R15 front tires and 195/60R15 rear tires. Here's a couple of links to Continental winter tires in these sizes on tirerack.

Continental VikingContact 7 175/65R15 88T

Continental VikiingContact 7 195/60R15 92T

By keeping the tires staggered, you keep the standard safe handling.
Thank you so much for your trouble. I ended up going with four 165/65/15 because that is the size for the rear and Costco will install these and you get $110 off if you buy four, I can return them though if that is not a good plan , Cant get the car out of the driveway on Continental Mud and Snow . Costco does not let you deviate from what is written on the door
I have sort of an emotional attachment to Blizzaks since I had them on my last Smart Car, Thank you again, Grateful of any help
 

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Kauna, Costco is very strict about putting the wrong size tires on customers cars. They only install the factory recommended sizes. They don’t want any law suits.

If you buy tires from the tire rack. They have a list of recommend tire installers, in the location you live. They even will ship the tires, to that tire shop. That you decided having them mounted at.
 

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Yes,I picked up the tires yesterday and Costco thinking they would at least install the two that meet factory specs but they also have a rule that they will not install two snow tires when there are two all seasons on the car i.e. they all have to match. So I am currently sliding all over the road with four Blizzacks WS90 in my trunk!! Some progress
Thank you so much and Happy Holidays to my Smart Friends!!
 

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Yes,I picked up the tires yesterday and Costco thinking they would at least install the two that meet factory specs but they also have a rule that they will not install two snow tires when there are two all seasons on the car i.e. they all have to match. So I am currently sliding all over the road with four Blizzacks WS90 in my trunk!! Some progress
Thank you so much and Happy Holidays to my Smart Friends!!
COSTCO is worthless. Try National Tire. I think they are less stringent. If you have to, take them in two at a time.
 

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Thank you , I live in the High Rockies in Colorado where there is no national tires . i will try Big O
 

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Thank you , I live in the High Rockies in Colorado where there is no national tires . i will try Big O
Sounds good. If need be, just take them to some mom and pop loose - tires and rims. Don't even tell them what they are going on. None of their business anyway.
 

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Your insurance company may balk at paying out if the mismatched tires are a factor in an accident... And the company that fitted them could be liable as well. YMMV, of course. :)
 

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Thank you , I live in the High Rockies in Colorado where there is no national tires . i will try Big O
Well if you happen to come to Denver say to go to the airport, Vince and Raoul at Peerless Tire on Colfax will mount them.

They have done several summer and winter tire sets for me; even some tire sizes I had shipped in from Europe because they are no longer available in the US...
 

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Your insurance company may balk at paying out if the mismatched tires are a factor in an accident... And the company that fitted them could be liable as well. YMMV, of course. :)
Remind me not to use your insurance company. LOL One could probably sue smart for putting Continentals on as OEM tires...
 

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Aaaaaaaahhhh... Alright, boys and girls. So, I ordered the four 185/60/15 for my 2016 Passion from Costco, waited weeks, drove to Costco who refused to install them. Would not even install rear which are to spec as they said there had to be four snow tires
Yesterday I took the tires to my local tire shop and dropped the car off, When I came back they told me they could get the two front tires ( 185/60/15 instead of 165/65/15 on ) but they said "there was no play in the wheel" and they did not fit
Sooooo , they took them off and I still have a yard ornament in the High Rockies without snow tires . Who out there has no trouble with 185/60/15s on their front wheel without a problem. Looks like I am not going to be able to drive the car this Winter
 
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