I've been seeing other forums. I'm sorry, but every time I come here, it's mostly ED discussion and now I find out they are excluding ICE members. It's slow around here. I've been at H.A.M.B. and Jeep Wrangler forums. New and interesting topics all the time. 5-10 new posts a minute. Learning lots more about my wife's Jeep. Funny, all the forums have their Larrys and trolls. I'll still be here to see what is going on and stay up on Frankensmart.