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Bob, it's questions like that that make me glad I'm not an economist!

Realistically, I think there are two completely separate forces that might make people consider switching to higher mileage vehicles:
  • The oil supply, and associated issues of price, national security, etc.
  • The environment, and associated issues like global climate change.
The second reason is less tangible (in terms of dollars in your pocket), but may yet prove to be a lot more powerful as a motivator.
 

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IF gas reaches $4.00? It's been at or below $4.00 a gallon for super (which SO many cars specify) for months in San Francisco. We're living the reality already. $5? Couldn't possibly be far in the future...
 

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I don't think the majority of people will look at any of this rationally - or do the numbers. Every time gas spikes you see the For Sale signs up on the SUV's, and when it lowers a bit the temporary tags show up on new SUV's again. We are not surrounded by rocket scientists, (the only one I know drives a hopped-up MINI) and they react to NOW and don't peer into the future.

I saw a news report a year ago that said that they had run a poll asking at what price would they dump their low mileage vehicle, and the average came to $4.54/gallon. Of course, if we just continue creeping up to it I would think that number would continue to rise as people grow used to it, falling victim to Big Oil's plan all along. :mad:

Personally, I'll be thrilled to be ahead of the curve when my Smart arrives. :cool:

Oh yeah, don't forget, the Smarts take super too!
 

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I have a diesel PU that was getting 12mpg @$4.48/gal. It is now just for moving loads period. The Smart car is now for all other travel. I am looking into the posted technology of electrolysis to convert water into hydrogen, so the car will run on both. It should triple the gas mileage.
 

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About two years ago I told co-workers that gas would hit 5-6 a gal. by 2010. They did'nt take me seroiusly. My reason for such a prediction? China and India. China will out consume our use by 2010. For us to tap into our own reserves will take years, much of which needs prices to hit 80 dollars a barrel to be cost effective. Closing oil prices on Fri 18, 08 was $116.69. We as a nation must change the way we view autos. As http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loremo the creator of Loremo put it " it makes no sence to have a 3000lb vehicle propel a 180lb human. I also find it interesting that with current gas prices, people still fly by me on the interstate in single occupant trucks and SUV's. Truly sad.:mad: But buying a smart will make me glad:D
 

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I'm loving my 2005 CDI ForTwo with every fill-up. I take 50% Biodiesel and I get between 60 to 70 mpg. One guy in our club has managed to get 100 mpg a few times.

I hope that things change so that they allow the new 451 diesels to be sold in the US and Canada. Increasing fuel prices might encourage that!
 

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Well over $4 at most everyone but Costco and a few Arco stations here in Los Angeles. I don't see a lot of SUV owners running to the exits.
 

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All good reasons to go for a smart now, perhaps something that will burn ethanol, or hydrogen alter, maybe an all electric when they can get them to perform and wrench the price down.
 

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$4.059 here in Rancho Cucamonga today.
Boy am I glad I sold my boat last year, it burns 2 gallons of premium per MINUTE...
Equally glad I got rid of 2 stroke Jetski fuel pig. With my MP3 and Smart, gas isn't even a concern. I fill my tank every week. Don't usually wait until I am near empty. Haven't cracked $20 bucks yet. My old truck use to cost me $65-$70 bucks a pop. That hurt even though I am in a position to pay that and more. To all those that laugh at my car at work, I love to butt in when one is complaining about the price of gas. I tell them I hope it goes to $8 a gallon.
 

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I have 4 people and 5 cars in my household, plus 2 mopeds and 4 bikes. When gas reached $3/gallon, I started really cutting back and researching for another vehicle. We live close enough to work and school so we can choose to bike or use the mopeds, weather permitting. I save hundred$ per month by only driving when required.

I now drive my 2008 fortwo Passion for 99% of my trips.

The other vehicles are driven only on an "as needed" basis.

2006 Dodge Grand Caravan: driven only when absolutely necessary, perhaps 4 times a month.

1995 Ford Escort wagon: the mom taxi, driven about 10-15miles per day.

1994 Ford Escort wagon: the college student, driven about 6 miles a day.

1977 Reliant Robin 850: driven about 10 times per YEAR
 

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I think we'll pay just as much as Europeans do. It's not a matter of if, its a matter of when.
Last spring I gave a talk in Berlin and had a free day, so I spent it driving the Autobahn as fast as I could, for as long as I could. Out of fear of enraging any environmentalists here, I won't say how fast or long that was, but I did pay around $6/gal for the privilege.

On the flight home, I was seated next to a guy from Scotland who said that he was paying a bit over $9/gal at home.

And that was last year ...

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Current UK prices

Just for grins, here are prices around Salisbury:

Your search for SP2 0HW found 18 petrol stations within 10 miles.
Including your 2 closest stations: Bp/spar Westacre (BP), and Shell Bemerton (Shell).
Unleaded Diesel LRP Super LPG
The Highest price in this area: 111.9p 122.9p n/a 117.9p 55.9p
The Average price in this area: 107.8p 118.2p n/a 113.6p 54.2p
The Lowest price in this area: 104.9p 113.9p n/a 109.9p 52.9p

Current exchange rate: 1 GBP = $1.9813, so roughly $8/gallon.
 

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Lots of people tried to explain that payback theory to me when I bought my Insight. But what they forgot was
trade-in of used Expedition with $5 gas:worthless
value of extremely efficient car at $5 gas: priceless
I sold my Insight for more than I paid for it after 40,000 miles, how'd the guy with the Expedition do?
 
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