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I took a quasi-dead, abandoned smartm451/ vintge 09 to the dealer and was gratified to discover most propblems came from the fuel tank! The former owner took the car vaway from his son and I got it. A trip to the MB dealer got me the star codes and a brief diagnostic and a complete flush out of the fuel tank in situ. Goobers and ucki (pronounced "ootski" )were the main culprits..
SHE'S ALIVE AND ROARING NOW!
My plans:
1. new black passenger fender or two new red ones
2. Complete base line maintenance
3. Built-in plug-in battery tender
4. New exhaust (too many dings from potholes and rough driving)
5. A complete groom and leather treatment ( a spcialty of mine from my fur coat making days)
6. A lift kit (need to know a good one!) to lift 2-3 inches and sport 165-80-15 tires,
7. a tow hitch which holds the spare tire bracket
8. smart hub caps
9. A smart-relevant tool kit (BTW what special tools are needed?)
I haven't been this excited since I bought Groucho Marx's old Mercedes. as a barn find
 

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Dreamcarowner got a lift kit. I’m afraid it may have caused premature failure of the driveshaft boots or something like that. I told him I think he should take it off...
 

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The Daystar lift is 2 inches. Lifting any car comes with the risk of tearing boots, so you want to make sure those are pretty fresh or new. Simply going from 29s to 31s on the Ranger I used to own was enough to tear the ancient boots its front CV axles were wearing.

The Tesla ED suspension is also good for 1-2 inches and is cheaper than the Daystar. Most people who install either the Daystar or the Tesla ED suspension recommend getting an alignment immediately after the install.
 

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The Daystar lift is 2 inches. Lifting any car comes with the risk of tearing boots, so you want to make sure those are pretty fresh or new. Simply going from 29s to 31s on the Ranger I used to own was enough to tear the ancient boots its front CV axles were wearing.

The Tesla ED suspension is also good for 1-2 inches and is cheaper than the Daystar. Most people who install either the Daystar or the Tesla ED suspension recommend getting an alignment immediately after the install.
Thank you for this highly useful comment!
One question: Are you speaking of the TESLA ED lift kit or of the Tesla suspension members?
I assume there is a lift kit available from someone, any brands or sources known??

In any event, all the rubber on this smart will be replaced this winter, now that I have a garage to store it and a place to work on it.

BTW I never asked you: which Benz do you own/drive?
 

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Thank you for this highly useful comment!
One question: Are you speaking of the TESLA ED lift kit or of the Tesla suspension members?
I assume there is a lift kit available from someone, any brands or sources known??

In any event, all the rubber on this smart will be replaced this winter, now that I have a garage to store it and a place to work on it.

BTW I never asked you: which Benz do you own/drive?
Also discovered that the Tesla 1.75" lift kit from MPP is 300.00, while the smart kits through Amazon for four axles is 333.00
 

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Also discovered that the Tesla 1.75" lift kit from MPP is 300.00, while the smart kits through Amazon for four axles is 333.00
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the Tesla 1.75" lift kit from MPP is 500.00, while the smart kits through Amazon for four axles is 333.00
 

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Thank you for this highly useful comment!
One question: Are you speaking of the TESLA ED lift kit or of the Tesla suspension members?
I assume there is a lift kit available from someone, any brands or sources known??

In any event, all the rubber on this smart will be replaced this winter, now that I have a garage to store it and a place to work on it.

BTW I never asked you: which Benz do you own/drive?
Neither. The 2009-2011 smart fortwo Electric Drive comes with a beefy Tesla battery. These cars were prototypes that were supposed to be returned to smart after the testing phases (leases) were complete. Instead, many ended up in private hands while many others ended up scrapped by places like Autobahn Dismantling.

Some people here discovered that when you fit the suspension parts from those cars to an ICE, you get basically the Daystar lift out of it. I paid Autobahn Dismantling like $160 for front and back shocks and springs from the Tesla battery smart ED.

As for what I drive? I have two 2005 smart fortwos, a 2012 smart fortwo, a 2016 smart fortwo, a Ford Festiva rally car, and about six motorcycles. lol I do plan on replacing my Festiva rally car with a MB 300D rally car. The "Mercedes" in my name will soon hopefully be my new legal first name. :)
 
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Wife and I saw this one on the web , would love to do this project just for fun . Just need a donor vehicle , and room in the garage .
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Bet its top speed is 70, foot to floor in 4th gear. Tall tires and drag are killers in tiny cars like these.
 

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We would use it just for fun , not driving on the highways . There are some nice off road parks locally it would be fun to trailer and play in the park . Nothing too serious .
 

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I took a quasi-dead, abandoned smartm451/ vintge 09 to the dealer and was gratified to discover most propblems came from the fuel tank! The former owner took the car vaway from his son and I got it. A trip to the MB dealer got me the star codes and a brief diagnostic and a complete flush out of the fuel tank in situ. Goobers and ucki (pronounced "ootski" )were the main culprits..
SHE'S ALIVE AND ROARING NOW!
My plans:
1. new black passenger fender or two new red ones
2. Complete base line maintenance
3. Built-in plug-in battery tender
4. New exhaust (too many dings from potholes and rough driving)
5. A complete groom and leather treatment ( a spcialty of mine from my fur coat making days)
6. A lift kit (need to know a good one!) to lift 2-3 inches and sport 165-80-15 tires,
7. a tow hitch which holds the spare tire bracket
8. smart hub caps
9. A smart-relevant tool kit (BTW what special tools are needed?)
I haven't been this excited since I bought Groucho Marx's old Mercedes. as a barn find
I have picked up the 451 from the dealer. It runs well, although is noisy due to exhaust leak.
It is now in my son's garage, awaiting baseline oil and filter change, plus air filter change.

1. Now it is time to create the repair environment. Flat cardboard 4' x 6' covered by carpet for use by old man doing repairs (me). bring all tools plus jacks and 16"x16"x4" panels to be used to lift car 8" off ground for ease of inspection.
2. After checking the wheels and brakes, next will be oil/filter change and exhaust removal. I need to see how bad the exhaust is, and whether a fix is possible. If not I'll call Smart Madness and look for a take-off exhaust.
3. I may have located an entire front clip, as well, in Canada.
4. Longer term, I will create permanent red and black aux cables to connect a battery tender, to keep the battery up.
5. Then we investigate trailer hitch to hold my home-made rear tire bracket.
6. Also looking for info on lubricants and fluids for baseline maintenance and smart car DOs and DON'Ts.
That's the latest for now!
 

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Wife and I saw this one on the web , would love to do this project just for fun . Just need a donor vehicle , and room in the garage .
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HA I love it. I am doing an off road smart conversion atm. I am contact with an adapter manufacturer to go from 3 to 6 lug. This way I can get a rough idea of what it will look like after it gets all the suburban parts mwhahaha. Basic pic for now.
 

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CORRECTION:
the Tesla 1.75" lift kit from MPP is 500.00, while the smart kits through Amazon for four axles is 333.00
I recently did the smart EV spring conversion on my 2015 Pure, and have been very happy with it. I replaced the rubber strut mounts, and have not noticed any alignment issues so far. I've put about 1,000 miles on the car since. My mpg may be a bit lower with the bigger tires have now - 185/65R15 and 205/60R15.

You mentioned you were in the fur business? I'd be curious to know more. That's a dying art.
 

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I recently did the smart EV spring conversion on my 2015 Pure, and have been very happy with it. I replaced the rubber strut mounts, and have not noticed any alignment issues so far. I've put about 1,000 miles on the car since. My mpg may be a bit lower with the bigger tires have now - 185/65R15 and 205/60R15.

You mentioned you were in the fur business? I'd be curious to know more. That's a dying art.
Wow pretty beefy for a smart, any pics?
 

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Wow pretty beefy for a smart, any pics?
Stock steel rims, stock springs, stock tires:
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Alloy rims, stock springs, bigger tires:
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Alloy rims, EV springs, bigger tires:
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The front is where the difference is. Before, I would get some rubbing on bumps, corners. Now, nothing. Even at speed with sharp cornering. The higher profile sidewalls make for a smother ride and add some curb protection as well. Still looks like a toy, but a toy with an attitude, or on steroids...
 

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Stock steel rims, stock springs, stock tires:
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Alloy rims, stock springs, bigger tires:
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Alloy rims, EV springs, bigger tires:
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The front is where the difference is. Before, I would get some rubbing on bumps, corners. Now, nothing. Even at speed with sharp cornering. The higher profile sidewalls make for a smother ride and add some curb protection as well. Still looks like a toy, but a toy with an attitude, or on steroids...
I LOVE IT. Some thicc tires. Was it just the lift that was needed to make it clear those tires? did it change the speedometer? Difference in ride quality? It really makes me want to get those 16" six lugs installed HA.
 

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I LOVE IT. Some thicc tires. Was it just the lift that was needed to make it clear those tires? did it change the speedometer? Difference in ride quality? It really makes me want to get those 16" six lugs installed HA.
The EV springs were all that the tires needed for clearance. I don't know if the 205/60R15 on the 6 inch rim would clear the front, as I never tried. The speedometer is dead on now, matching GPS readings. Ride quality seems much improved. I haven't tried any intense cornering, but it seems to handle highway on-ramps at speed without any problems. I've got some Bridgestone Blizzak WS80175/65R15 snows that I'm going to throw on in November.
 
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