[e350coupe]

I just purchased these coil springs which will lift the vehicle 1-1/2 to 2 inches.

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For the price it was an excellent deal and these springs come off vehicles which are only 2-5K on them however the battery died thus they are being parted out.

Posting this because I got first of 5 sets, thus 4 are still available

 

[e350coupe]

 

[e350coupe]

Above is 2011 with 2015 ED springs installed and 185/65/15 continental tires on 4x5.5" steel rims. I now have a min. of 8" ground clearance and extremely entry/egress not to mention a speedo that reads dead on, and a very comfortable ride.

 

[twcom]

Above is 2011 with 2015 ED springs installed and 185/65/15 continental tires on 4x5.5" steel rims. I now have a min. of 8" ground clearance and extremely entry/egress not to mention a speedo that reads dead on, and a very comfortable ride.

I put them in my Ebay Cart. I will photo Shop my car on yours to see it at that height, thinking more of using fronts only. But you are really looking good.

 

[e350coupe]

another member here just did that using only the fronts which worked out really good for him. in my case the rears could were extremely abused and was a significant improvement not only in moderate height but in handling.

I did the rears first as that was a union hour of work, and extremely easy to do.

the fronts were more time consuming, as I had never done it before, all in all 4-6 hours on 2 separate days, I took my time and repaired other things.

 

[SmartieAZ]

I don't see a problem on the rear, but on the front if you lift only by longer springs by 2 inch - isn't the geometry now wrong?
My guess is you would have excessive wear on the outsides of your front tires. In the Daystar lifting kit you are lifting everything in
the front and don't change the geometry. Maybe after 2000 miles you could see what I mean.

 

[dhlairbusb4]

Smartie, actually I do not think the geometry is affected... since we are basically replacing a worn spring.
2Com, I did the fronts only, and got about a 1.5 inch lift. It was not that hard, except for obtaining the proper tools. A pass thru socked set is needed, and spring compressors.
I have pics for comparison, but need to take another that shows it better... will post tomorrow.
e350, Thanks for all the information you provided, with out your help, I probably would not have taken on this project.

 

[e350coupe]

Getting the springs for $99, then 5-6 hours installing them, and after that a $160 4 wheel alignment corrected everything to within spec's. I was surprised at the difference from the alignment I just did as compared to the alignment in sept-2019. Also being that I have 4 identical tires done with the alignment I don't see that I will get any uneven wear.

 

[SmartieAZ]

well, i put electric smart shocks/stuts,springs in my 09 smart.....front and rear are wearing out tires big time now....front and rear wedgies would be nice

Please report back after 2000 miles...

 

[Shoehorn]

Some day, I’d love to park next to your car for a picture. You went up, I went down. I have 2-3” of clearance, you have 8”+. It’d be a cool picture.

 

[Shalmaneser64]

Getting the springs for $99, then 5-6 hours installing them, and after that a $160 4 wheel alignment corrected everything to within spec's. I was surprised at the difference from the alignment I just did as compared to the alignment in sept-2019. Also being that I have 4 identical tires done with the alignment I don't see that I will get any uneven wear.

Just saw this thread. Like you, I put 185/65R15s up front, but went with 205/60r15s in the rear. I had a set of Rials - 5 and 6 inch. Love the look and the handling, but I have a bit of interference in the front if the car is loaded. Your solution looks like the answer to my problem. Any problems after a few months? Could you provide a quick summary of the replacement procedure?

 

[Shalmaneser64]

My ED springs are due in Monday. Delayed due to a train derailment, according to UPS.

I looked at the specs for the 2015 ICE and ED. Curb weights of 1808 and 2094, respectively. The ED is 286 pounds heavier. Interestingly, even though the springs are different between the two models, the struts and shocks aren't. So I can see where the lighter load of the ICE with the stiffer ED springs will give it some extra lift, assuming that both cars have the same factory ride height. I'll measure them when they come in. I also have a set of Brabus springs as well, that I'll include in the measurements. I believe that the Brabus struts and shocks ARE different among the ICE models.

 

[Shalmaneser64]

My ED springs are now due in today. UPS can't make up its mind, it seems. Should be interesting to see how it rides and handles without having to worry about clearance up front. There are some MF bridge joints on the DC Beltway that I have to endure. A bit of extra ride height opens up a whole lot of other 24"+ tire options.

 

[Richnjohn]

Does anyone know if using ED springs on a 453 will achieve simillar results?

 

[OliverB]

Does anyone know if using ED springs on a 453 will achieve simillar results?

Interested to know the same. Not many 453s came to the U.S. and the minority were EDs plus the 453 ED didn’t make it here until the 2017 year. Haven’t heard anything about spring difference between the ICE and ED version of the 453 so far. In a 451 thread it was said the shocks were the same for both models so no need to change them out.

 

[Mailman]

In another thread, a member was having the ABS kick on with 24.2" tires.

Non-stock tire sizes - ABS cycling on turns

I installed P195/60r15 rear and P175/65r15 fronts on my 2009 fortwo and have since had my front ABS kicking in (Front brake grab) ever since. This seems to happen most of the times on left turns. The tire diameters are within .2" of each other. My research seemed to indicate that as long as the...

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That is 7.5% larger than the stock diameter of 22.6" (451 front wheel).
That is 3.8% larger than the stock diameter of 23.3" (453 front wheel).

"A bit of extra ride height opens up a whole lot of other 24"+ tire options ."
Might not if the 'ABS kicking on' threshold is 24.2"...

 

[Shalmaneser64]

In another thread, a member was having the ABS kick on with 24.2" tires.

Non-stock tire sizes - ABS cycling on turns

I installed P195/60r15 rear and P175/65r15 fronts on my 2009 fortwo and have since had my front ABS kicking in (Front brake grab) ever since. This seems to happen most of the times on left turns. The tire diameters are within .2" of each other. My research seemed to indicate that as long as the...

www.smartcarofamerica.com

That is 7.5% larger than the stock diameter of 22.6" (451 front wheel).
That is 3.8% larger than the stock diameter of 23.3" (453 front wheel).

"A bit of extra ride height opens up a whole lot of other 24"+ tire options ."
Might not if the 'ABS kicking on' threshold is 24.2"...

The combination I have - 185/65R15s up front, with 205/60r15s in the rear are very close in terms of diameter. I haven’t noticed any ABS issues.

Diameters are 24.5 inches for front, 24.7 inches for the rear. That's a +0.8% difference for the rear, or 0.2 inches.

Compared to the factory:

Diameters are 22.3 inches for the front 155/60 R15, 22.6 inches for the rear 175/55 R15. That's a +1.3% difference for the rear, or 0.3 inches.

Short of running the same tires all around, I don't think you can get much closer, diameter-wise.

I've already run the car about 100 miles or so with no ABS issues as is. I'll have the new springs in this week, fingers crossed, so I'll know better then if I have other issues.

 

[Shalmaneser64]

So I got the right rear spring swapped out this morning. About 30 minutes to do it. The shock bolt has a star head on it, so be prepared for that. Other than that, very simple. Mr. Weber’s video was very informative. The ICE and ED rear springs look identical, with no difference in height, but there is one slight difference: the ICE spring is 0.42 inches in diameter, whereas the ED spring is 0.44 inches in diameter. That’s a 5% increase in thickness. The Brabus front spring comes in at 0.43 inches, and is also the same height as the other two, but appears to have an extra coil in it. I haven’t measured the front springs yet. I can’t say that I see any difference in the rear ride height yet, but I have a bunch of stuff in the car. It’s the front that I want to raise up. We shall see soon.

 

[Shalmaneser64]

Worked on my front springs replacement yesterday. Stopped by the ball joints. My remover doesn't have a deep enough reach, and I'm not keen on trying to pop them out with a giant screwdriver. Going to see if I can rent a tool today. Noticed that the strut boot on the right side has weakened at the base and pulled up, so it isn't providing full shaft protection. Zip tie should fix that. Going to put new drilled rotors on at the same time.

 

[Shalmaneser64]

Ended up buying a proper ball joint remover at Advance Auto Parts. Popped the tie rod and lower ball joint nicely. I ended up needing a pair of spring compressors, and an impact gun to knock loose the second nut on the strut shaft. I put a new top strut bushing and bearing on, and a new slotted and drilled rotor and new pads on. The ED spring looks like it gives about an extra inch or so of lift, which is all that I need. I'll be doing the driver side springs this weekend, weather permitting.