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Hurricane Michael caused Progressive to total my 2008 blue/silver smart cabrio. This past Saturday, I drove it down to a dealer in Palm Harbor (10 miles north of Clearwater), where I left it for Progressive to take possession, after I drove my new-to-me 2009 blue/silver smart passion home.

The dealer over-sold the car to me on the phone as in, "great condition", which I found wasn't exactly true. I'll detail my complaints below. But, after pointing out the shortcomings, he did lower the price from $5K to $4K and I drove it home Sunday.


I haven't been able to get photos to embed, so have just provided links to them.
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The Good:
Half as many miles on the clock as on my car, 55K vs. 105K
2009 Blue/Silver passion
Tires appear to be new
Interior is mostly in good shape (with a few major blemishes)
The doors close quietly, smooth. No problem there.
So far, the car seems to run and shift properly.
Gas mileage on the 350+ mile trip home appeared to be acceptable. Much of the distance I drove at 75-80MPH, occasionally near 90.
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The Bad:
Clear coat almost completely gone from the front bonnet flap.
http://peacepond.com/2009smart_noSpace/Front_flap_clear_coat.JPG
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Clear coat missing in spot areas from both front quarter panels.
http://peacepond.com/2009smart_noSpace/Left_quarter_panel_clear_coat.JPG


http://peacepond.com/2009smart_noSpace/Right_quarter_panel_clear_coat.JPG
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One wheel has a cosmetically obvious repair. But, I retained three of my Rials, and will eventually complete the set and install them.
http://peacepond.com/2009smart_noSpace/Damaged_Wheel.jpg
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The sun shade is damaged and may not be salvagable. Maybe I'll figure a way to paint the Pano roof?
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The front flap apparently is missing both grommets which the latches are supposed to secure to, so I drove home with it Gorilla Taped in place, the same as the way I've been driving my 2008 since the hurricane. But the latches themselves seem to be alright. Anyone seen this problem?
http://peacepond.com/2009smart_noSpace/Taped_front_flap.jpg
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The left-hand tailgate latch has it's tab broken off. It can be operated by sticking a screw driver into the hole. I have the tab which is broken off. That's a bit of a hassle, especially in poor light conditions. Is it OK to drive the car with only one latch secured?
http://peacepond.com/2009smart_noSpace/Broken_tailgate_latch.jpg
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There's a damaged spot on the passenger side interior.
http://peacepond.com/2009smart_noSpace/Dash_damage.jpg
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The car has it's OEM tiny car high pitched beep beep horn.
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The Pano roof appears to have been improperly cared for or cleaned with something which caused hazing. It's almost like looking through frosted glass. Not talking about crazing.
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It has the stock head unit and speakers. I kept my upgrade speakers, amp, subwoofer and crossover. Eventually, I'll get them installed in the 'new' car. No question, I'll want to upgrade the head unit too.
http://peacepond.com/2009smart_noSpace/Stock_head_unit.JPG
I left my Kenwood HU in the '08 cabrio.
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No cruise control. :-( Missing that.
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The rear window weather seal has some bad spots.
http://peacepond.com/2009smart_noSpace/Weather_seal.jpg
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Came with no floor mats, but I retained my OEM all weather mats.
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The engine is absolutely filthy. It looks like it has spent its entire 10-years without being cleaned, and being driven at least some on dusty dirt roads. I may tackle that job this weekend.
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I liked the '08's hard plastic door pouches much better than the nets on the '09.
http://peacepond.com/2009smart_noSpace/Door-nets.jpg
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No hockey puck.
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The air conditioner has some kind of problem, not yet identified. Haven't tried the heat yet, but it's not needed much. A/C is pretty much a necessity for 80% of the year here and I may have to have it repaired.
When it's working it cools so well I need to ease back on it after a few minutes, and I really like it COOL. But, other times there's little if any air movement, even though I hear a fan running. Gonna be a problem.
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The power side mirrors aren't working properly. I can adjust in only two of four directions. I got one turned too far inward and couldn't get it back into proper position without doing it manually.
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The interior passenger side door handle has some bad scratches.
http://peacepond.com/2009smart_noSpace/Scratched_door_handle.jpg
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Apparently, the tach had been broken off at some point and was poorly repaired. Upon hard acceleration on an Interstate on-ramp on the way home, it snapped off and fell on the floor.
http://peacepond.com/2009smart_noSpace/BrokenTach.jpg
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Before I agreed to drive down, the dealer told me he'd have the problem panels replaced before I got there (he had 6-days to do it). But, he said smart couldn't get him painted panels and they weren't replaced. He knocked $300 off the price for that.
 

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I think I have to agree with smark. That car looks like it has had a rough life. Good luck with getting it up to your standards.
 

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It looks like it was driven for a decade by a person or persons who didn't care much about taking care of it. I was disappointed when I got there and checked it out. Its condition didn't meet expectations I was given, and I let the dealer know. He did lower the price by $1,000.
I needed a car, and being 350 miles from home with a storm damaged car I was kinda in a must-buy situation. Naturally, I didn't tell him that.


I'm trying to make the best of a less than ideal situation. I hope to remedy some of the problems. Open to any suggestions.
 

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With the exception of the dash fabric scuff, everything else is fixable rather easily with some self-wrenching efforts. It's not that bad, clearly the owner was loading large items in that car. That's where the scuffs, scratches, broken tach, broken rear latch, that just comes from carrying things in that car. The wheel is also very easily replaceable.

If it makes you feel better, NCC, it is fixable stuff relatively easily. More important than the scuffs and scratches, how does the engine and trans run?
 

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I haul some of my band equipment in mine. I always have to fold down the passenger seat. I carry an 88 key keyboard that is about 53 inches long. It just goes from the closed tailgate and the other end rests on the ledge there in front of the glove box door where you have the torn cloth. I carry extra throw rugs and try to insulate the car from scratches, but to despite my best efforts I still have a few dings. I still manage to get a keyboard, guitar and case, bar stool, keyboard stand, mike stand, guitar stand, guitar amp and a gym bag full of chords in there and still have room to see and drive. I'm sure that you will have your new friend looking spiffy in no time.
You can probably find a lot of what you need on ebay. I would suspect that Smart Madness or the Smart Center in West Corvina would have the tailgate latch. They have both been a God send for me for little parts that you would think would be hard to find.
I replaced the solid roof on Max with a used Makrolon top from an auto recycler. It came with a few scratches and dings and blemishes. I bought a few of these pens and they did an admirable job of covering up a lot of the blemishes on the roof. It is a small tip and it was tedious to do, but you paint it on and then set the car out in the sun and the ultraviolet rays from the sun bakes that stuff onto the plastic. Mine has been repaired for over 3 years and is still holding up well. DCO


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fix-It-Pro...h=item3606c8f3c3:g:j5oAAOSwhOdXpYeU:rk:7:pf:0
 
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