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Great community here, used this site to research prior to driving from Philly area to Boston to test drive and purchase a couple weeks back. We have now had the ForTwo a little over a week, this thing has been a blast to drive. Office is 4 miles from the house so this is perfect little car for my commute. We initially felt it was cheaper to buy this little car than replace engine on the GLS550 due to short trips to the office. Now that we've put a few miles on it, we are enjoying driving more than we expected to. Delivered with roughly 76 miles and now has little over 200. Pending quotes for install of a chargepoint home flex charger, yes it's overkill for the ForTwo however I want to make sure we are future proofed as much as possible.

Including a few images of what we are referring to as the 'clown car'. Puts a smile on the face every time I get in it and go for a drive. Trying to now determine what to use for a personalized plate.


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Trip to Walmart with the 4C (was concerned on the range piece of things so took backup). Humorous how much smaller the ForTwo is than 4C, the 4C is a rather small car.
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With winter coming, had to try fitting all four cars into a two car garage. I was able to fit all four in addition to keeping the lawn mower and pressure washer in there.
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And now the question. I have read the manual in regard to lifting the ForTwo however I am still unclear on process. The other 2 mercedes have little 'pockets' for where to lift and the 4C has a carbon fiber tub with little carbon fiber 'patches' where you are supposed to lift. With the ForTwo, I looked at the underside and it's just not clear how I'm supposed to use quickjack with it. Am I supposed to use a block with channel in it to fit the rubber on either side of the 'rail' or am I supposed to use a solid rubber block under the 'rail' which seems completely wrong. I'm wanting to pull the wheels so that I can clay and ceramic coat wheels (one of my hobbies is detailing the cars).

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Great forum and looking forward to future participation!
 

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I’m in the same situation. I leased mine yesterday because my commute is only 2 miles. No more downtown DC for me.
Does this thing come with a jack? I honestly don’t even know. Would be good to hear the answer if I decide to get some different wheels and to otherwise know.

I had a 4c following me on the GW parkway earlier. And yes, this is the most fun car I have had. And I have had a ton of cars.
 

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Sorry, but smarts do not come with jacks or spare tires. Some people use a scissor type jack from a VW or Audi. They can carry it in the car behind the passenger seat and even a small spare tire if they want to. I just use a regular heavy duty roll around floor jack when I work on my car at home.
Also, welcome to the forum to both of you new members. This is a great place with lots of knowledgeable people here.
 

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Thanks! As to the original question, maybe the OP can use a small block to wedge a normal jack under there?

And, thanks for the welcome! Here is my new car. It is seriously the most fun car I have ever owned. And, I have been around crazy cars my whole life.
 

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Sorry, but smarts do not come with jacks or spare tires. Some people use a scissor type jack from a VW or Audi. They can carry it in the car behind the passenger seat and even a small spare tire if they want to. I just use a regular heavy duty roll around floor jack when I work on my car at home.
Also, welcome to the forum to both of you new members. This is a great place with lots of knowledgeable people here.
Thanks for the reply! Maybe I'm just trying to overcomplexify things but I'm still not clear. Should pressure be applied on the ridge (B) or do I need a slotted piece of wood, rubber, etc so that pressure is only applied on surfaces A & C? I've not had a car with one of these ridges before so just not used to this and probably overthinking it. I don't need another jack, have all the lifting tools I could likely need, just need to understand the actual pressure points so that I don't damage something. Thanks!

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I have a 451, not a 453, but my car has a similar flange for lifting. I use a small hard piece of rubber between the ridge and the lifting cup of the jack. Some people even use a hockey puck with a groove cut into it to fit the edge of the ridge to prevent any scratches.
 

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SmartCarCommuter-what level 2 are you looking at? I might do the same thing since I am in house Reno mode and will have the attention of “my guy” starting in about 2 weeks. The Bosch one looks nice but expensive. I’ve been using free level 2 Bosch chargers and they are stout for sure.
 

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Great community here, used this site to research prior to driving from Philly area to Boston to test drive and purchase a couple weeks back. We have now had the ForTwo a little over a week, this thing has been a blast to drive. Office is 4 miles from the house so this is perfect little car for my commute. We initially felt it was cheaper to buy this little car than replace engine on the GLS550 due to short trips to the office. Now that we've put a few miles on it, we are enjoying driving more than we expected to. Delivered with roughly 76 miles and now has little over 200. Pending quotes for install of a chargepoint home flex charger, yes it's overkill for the ForTwo however I want to make sure we are future proofed as much as possible.

Including a few images of what we are referring to as the 'clown car'. Puts a smile on the face every time I get in it and go for a drive. Trying to now determine what to use for a personalized plate.


Images on day of delivery
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Trip to Walmart with the 4C (was concerned on the range piece of things so took backup). Humorous how much smaller the ForTwo is than 4C, the 4C is a rather small car.
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With winter coming, had to try fitting all four cars into a two car garage. I was able to fit all four in addition to keeping the lawn mower and pressure washer in there.
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And now the question. I have read the manual in regard to lifting the ForTwo however I am still unclear on process. The other 2 mercedes have little 'pockets' for where to lift and the 4C has a carbon fiber tub with little carbon fiber 'patches' where you are supposed to lift. With the ForTwo, I looked at the underside and it's just not clear how I'm supposed to use quickjack with it. Am I supposed to use a block with channel in it to fit the rubber on either side of the 'rail' or am I supposed to use a solid rubber block under the 'rail' which seems completely wrong. I'm wanting to pull the wheels so that I can clay and ceramic coat wheels (one of my hobbies is detailing the cars).

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Great forum and looking forward to future participation!
I have a 2016 gasser. When I rotate the tires I jack on the A arms in the little hole. On the back I lift by the tubes. I bought 1\2" spacers and it drives fenominal in the Sconnie snow. Welcome to the Smartie family!
 

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SmartCarCommuter-what level 2 are you looking at? I might do the same thing since I am in house Reno mode and will have the attention of “my guy” starting in about 2 weeks. The Bosch one looks nice but expensive. I’ve been using free level 2 Bosch chargers and they are stout for sure.
I ordered the Mustart Travelmaster yesterday, should arrive today. I had planned the ChargePoint Flex, however trying to get eletricians to respond to emails and voicemails quickly annoyed me and I changed direction. I then saw that the new Mercedes will be wireless charging and decided that futureproofing with the flex's higher power wasn't needed.

Will install a 30 amp outside the garage this weekend to start utilizing the travelmaster L2 charger.
 

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I am sort of going the same route. I have been using the wall charger and it works just fine since the car sits in the driveway long enough overnight to charge. My current thinking is to have a 40amp circuit wired while the walls are all opened up, and have a regular 120 plug installed. Later, if we get another EV that would want more amperage to charge, I at least have the circuit there.

It is probably colder up by you in Mass but I will say the heating itself up in the morning is nice!
 

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And the 2017 453 ED/EQ manual further states:
"Position jack 2 behind the triangular
indentations for jacking point 1 on the
longitudinal body member.
" (underscore mine)

The word "behind" may be confusing, but another image in the manual shows the jack point is further inward, i.e., away from the sill.

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