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Cars and renovating them have occupied 65 years of my life. I have never before seen this happen.

First, let me say I have a 2010 pure with 20,000 on the odometer. I have made no modifications to the smart other than I put in an exhaust system with a little growl. I change oil every six months without fail. I use a synthetic oil and a Bosch filter #3300. Twice the oil filter ruptured on the circular seam at the bottom of the filter. I parked it in store parking lot today. I looked in the rear view mirror and an oil streak six inches wide followed me for 200 feet. Anyone else had this happen.
 

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Yes, that makes good sense. I got them on Amazon both at the same time. I noticed there is corrosion around the seal on the bottom of the filter. Oddly enough, I believe Bosch was the manufacturer of the OEM part.
 

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I suggest you move up to a wire backed oil filter, either a Wix XP or NAPA Platinum.
Purolator also makes the Boss, PBL14610…

Rock Auto is where I get my filters…

I use the long version, Wix 51356XP (NAPA 41356)
 

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I used the MANN W6011
Bought it from my local NAPA because they didn't have any other filters that fit, according to their "recommended filter" book.
 

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I say nay on the longer filter. Someone on here somewhat recently hit something that broke it off including the portion of the timing cover that the filter twists onto. No good/simple solution to be had.
 

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You could always go with the oem filter.
p/n: 1321800110 genuine smart
Our 451 smarts have a Mitsubishi engine, not some exotic Mercedes Benz engine.
I feel the oem filter is probably quite adequate.
 

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I always used the Mobil 1 oil filter. It’s a little longer in length them the OEM ones. Never had a issues with leaking. I hand tighten the new filter. If you over tighten a filter, they are guaranteed to leak.
 

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… and a Bosch filter #3300. Twice the oil filter ruptured on the circular seam at the bottom of the filter.
Wow, that’s scary. 2009 Passion with 70k miles here, and I’ve never had anything like that happen.

If you don’t see any obvious cause, like impact damage to the oil filter, I suggest reaching out to Bosch. They may have had a manufacturing issue, or perhaps someone sold you counterfeit Bosch filters. Either way, they should know so they can go fix it.

I suspect it’s the latter issue. You’d be surprised the kinds of things that get counterfeited; I’ve encountered fake iPhone cases, pistol magazine loaders, and even decks of playing cards - all sold through online markets. I wouldn’t be the least bit shocked to find out someone faked a $10 oil filter with a well-known brand name.
 

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I suggest you move up to a wire backed oil filter, either a Wix XP or NAPA Platinum.
Purolator also makes the Boss, PBL14610…

Rock Auto is where I get my filters…

I use the long version, Wix 51356XP (NAPA 41356)
Long version??? I’m pretty sure that would hang down too low! Someday you will hit something and tear it off. I just bet you will damage the engine as well. If you are tempted to try a long filter DONT.
 

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I always used the Mobil 1 oil filter. It’s a little longer in length them the OEM ones. Never had a issues with leaking. I hand tighten the new filter. If you over tighten a filter, they are guaranteed to leak.
I started with Mobil 1 filters. The new ones with "A" have 20k mi life rating. Fram Ultra also lists 20k mi rating. The difference:

Mobil 1- >30 microns * not sure if greater than or equal or just >
Fram Ultra- >20 microns

Hence I switched.
 

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I use a Purolator pl14610 premium oil filter.
It is a little longer :eek: allowing the car to take 4 quarts of oil.
I try to steer clear logs and large boulders.
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Woah that's a little low. Glad you haven't knocked it off. I guess not much road debris there.

Those with longer filters did you verify the same (as OEM) bypass valve spring rate?
 

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Woah that's a little low. Glad you haven't knocked it off. I guess not much road debris there.

Those with longer filters did you verify the same (as OEM) bypass valve spring rate?
Jessie,
Yep same spring rate. Better than fram. remember we're talking about a run of the mill Mitsubishi engine not some exotic Mercedes-Benz engine.
Fram lost me years ago with their terrible quality.
Once run-of-the-mill consumers started cutting open oil filters on YouTube and you could see the difference in quality. I realized Fram was garbage.
The corner of my filter is 1/4 to 1/3 of a inch below the engine oil drain.
You rode with me in my smart. I avoided all the logs, boulders, random car parts strewin about the road/freeway.
 

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I'm glad that the spring rate is the same.

Not sure I agree that the Ultra (Made in the USA) is garbage. Like a lot of companies: some Fram products are excellent, some are good, some are mediocre, and some may be poor. The plain Extra Guard may be mediocre or poor, but the Ultra is on the excellent side.
 

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I'm glad that the spring rate is the same.

Not sure I agree that the Ultra (Made in the USA) is garbage. Like a lot of companies: some Fram products are excellent, some are good, some are mediocre, and some may be poor. The plain Extra Guard may be mediocre or poor, but the Ultra is on the excellent side.
While what you say may be true. The garbage they produced for years before ruined their reputation with me and lot of car people. Never another fram filter on my vehicles.
 
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