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I’ve got to agree with you. I’d love a 451 with 453 running gear.


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The 453 looks a bit too bloated. My wife said it sort of looks like a puffer fish. I'd still like to drive one, but in the meantime, I'll stick with my 2013 Brabus.
 

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I believe it’s just a matter of personal preference. I have owned both generations for 3 years each and prefer the 453 for both style and mechanical reasons. No big deal. Personally, I think the 450 is neater looking than the 451.
 

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There really is just a subtle difference there. The 451 alone doesn’t look too slanted, but when compared to the 453 you notice it.

I don’t hate the 453, just prefer the 451 looks.




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There really is just a subtle difference there. The 451 alone doesn’t look too slanted, but when compared to the 453 you notice it.

I don’t hate the 453, just prefer the 451 looks.




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The 451 definitely is taller. The 453 is wider. To each, their own and i"m glad those who have the 453 like them. I have an affinity for smaller cars, I guess that is because my first new car in high school was a 73 beetle. The next car I'm looking at since I have a few of them as a bit of a hobby is the Fiat Abarth.
 

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I have to admit that I like the 451's over the newer body style.


I’ve got to agree with you. I’d love a 451 with 453 running gear.

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^^^^ that along with my 453’s 5 speed manual and turbo charged / modified motor , YES .. that would be fun . Did anyone ever make a larger throttle body for the
Smart ? Just wondering .
 

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...back in 2010 when Barney created the turbo kit for the 451 everybody talked about it but nobody put out the $$ for the mod...he built 3 kits...two for his cars and one for yours truly....and yes it is a lot of fun to have over 90 HP to the rear wheels...

Jetfuel...if it seems normal the you're not going fast enough....
 

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...back in 2010 when Barney created the turbo kit for the 451 everybody talked about it but nobody put out the $$ for the mod...he built 3 kits...two for his cars and one for yours truly....and yes it is a lot of fun to have over 90 HP to the rear wheels...
Mechanically, smart in 2010 still remained a Brave New World?

As M-B wasn’t willing to offer much of a warranty, just how “durable” was the engine and would a turbo turn it into a hand grenade?

Barney built a great kit and if jetfuel hasn’t broken it, it must be amazingly durable. Sadly by the time some were ready to write that $$ check, Barney had moved on.

And the ultimate tease, jetfuel let me experience 90 HP to the “smoking” rear wheels. Enough to make any smart enthusiast write that check!
 

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Mechanically, smart in 2010 still remained a Brave New World?

As M-B wasn’t willing to offer much of a warranty, just how “durable” was the engine and would a turbo turn it into a hand grenade?

Barney built a great kit and if jetfuel hasn’t broken it, it must be amazingly durable. Sadly by the time some were ready to write that $$ check, Barney had moved on.

And the ultimate tease, jetfuel let me experience 90 HP to the “smoking” rear wheels. Enough to make any smart enthusiast write that check!

My understanding is that Barney's smart had a built-up Toyota engine that was swapped in. Perhaps some of the SCOA veterans will chime in here, or perhaps jetfuel will come back to elaborate?
 

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My understanding is the smart had a built-up Toyota engine that was swapped in. Perhaps some of the SCOA veterans will chime in here, or perhaps jetfuel will come back to elaborate?
Kamaal, thanks for your vote of confidence???

Untrue, the Frankensmart (smart/Toyota) built, owned and raced by Barnes had NOTHING to do with his 3 451 turbo creations one of which is a Brabus owned by jetfuel.

Frankie . . .
https://www.smartcarofamerica.com/forums/f361/toyota-powered-smart-40102/
 

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Kamaal, thanks for your vote of confidence???

Untrue, the Frankensmart (smart/Toyota) built, owned and raced by Barnes had NOTHING to do with his 3 451 turbo creations one of which is a Brabus owned by jetfuel.

Well then I'm learning today. I'll be waiting for jetfuel's update... !!
 

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What I liked about Barney’s smart car. It was a sleeper. Custom paint job, chrome wheels, Brabus exhaust. Wasn’t over the top mods. Just nicely done. We’re all parked under the St. Louis Arch. Wives, in the background. No parking zone. A police car passed us. Just waved, and smiled at our little cars. That little car, was pretty quick. Hard to kept up with him, on the highway, in St. Louis.

 
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