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Just my .02, but I'm betting this car (if it ever hits smart USA showrooms) is only a stopgap until the next generation smart arrives. :)
Agreed, this would appear to be a baby step towards the smart/Renault (Nissan) colaboration.

Definately got some apples to oranges comparisons going on. Hard to detect the tridion safety cell on the Micra but I am sure that will all be crystal clear with the Micra cutaway in the showroom - not!

Marketing of the Micra clone as a sibling of the smart ForTwo may be the challenge? But then isn't MARKETING where our smart USA group shine? :eek:
 

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Looking closely at the car its based on, it looks like it has the Versa passenger room, but sacrifices the Cargo space behind the rear seat.

We Picked the Versa as our BIG car because of the ability to put a real adult in the rear while the diver was in a comfortable position.

This will in no way take away sales from the fortwo. After all there isn't a lot of sales to take away. It should bring new folks into the showroom and set them up for the future next gen smarts.
 

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I do not see how that can just stick a badge on the nissan and call it a smart. Just because you change a badge does not make the vehicle whatever the new badge says. Smart is smart and nissan is nissan
 

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one overly-eager article says "re-badge" and everyone gets upset. read further and you see language like "new global platform" and "based on vehicle architecture from Nissan".
everyone knows Renault-Nissan-Daimler are cooperating on various projects, and that this represents "the first vehicle for the U.S. market under an expanded partnership between Smart parent Daimler AG, Renault SA and Nissan."
"shared global platform" does not mean re-badging. A forfive model, placeholder or not, in place for 2-3 years before the 2014 model previously announced is a win-win.

"The yet-to-be-named new Smart subcompact will be built on a new global platform in one of Nissan's manufacturing plants in North America, Smart USA spokesman Rick Bourgoise said."
 

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one overly-eager article says "re-badge" and everyone gets upset. read further and you see language like "new global platform" and "based on vehicle architecture from Nissan".
everyone knows Renault-Nissan-Daimler are cooperating on various projects, and that this represents "the first vehicle for the U.S. market under an expanded partnership between Smart parent Daimler AG, Renault SA and Nissan."
"shared global platform" does not mean re-badging. A forfive model, placeholder or not, in place for 2-3 years before the 2014 model previously announced is a win-win.

"The yet-to-be-named new Smart subcompact will be built on a new global platform in one of Nissan's manufacturing plants in North America, Smart USA spokesman Rick Bourgoise said."

Exactly, my source says they are using the "platform" The rest will be engineered by smart.
 

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Ill wait till i can actually put my hands on it to gripe....but I fear ill gripe anyway :(
I like the Smart, the whole point of it is its Fortwo i thought...
Making it ForFour, IE going to way of the mini, and making the small car larger...
I dunno, ill wait till i see the gas/specs blah blah....If it helps the brand, ill call it good regardless.
I too would like to have a service station atleast in my state :)
 

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I guess Penske's not ready to throw in the towel on smart just yet, but a Versa clone? It sounds like a redux of the forfour/Mitsu Colt. :( Of course, it might just be a bridge model until the new generation arrives. Honda did the same thing with Isuzu Rodeo/Honda Passport until the Pilot could be introduced.
actually Honda and Isuzu had a deal for several years to produce vehicles for each other because each was lacking vehicles to compete in certain catagories. Honda didn't have an SUV and Isuzu didn't have a mini-van, so Honda agreed to produce the Honda Odyssey with the Isuzu Oasis name and Isuzu agreed to supply Honda with the Isuzu Rodeo under the Passport name. all was well with Isuzu but Honda was getting 'crap' from Isuzu. the Passport was killing Honda's "CSI" (customer service index) in owner surveys. many owners weren't even aware they had an Isuzu built vehicle and when they found out, they were FURIOUS! I know....I had to deal with them in the service drive nearly every day for 3 years. NOT FUN.
 

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engineered by smart doesn't mean engineered by Penske (smartUSA). I doubt Penske has the authority to do his own engineering on this. the US market appears to be seen as having a particularly urgent need for a larger model, that doesn't mean daimler is hands off.
 

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Ill wait till i can actually put my hands on it to gripe....but I fear ill gripe anyway :(
I like the Smart, the whole point of it is its Fortwo i thought...
Making it ForFour, IE going to way of the mini, and making the small car larger...
I dunno, ill wait till i see the gas/specs blah blah....If it helps the brand, ill call it good regardless.
I too would like to have a service station atleast in my state :)
Important point, This may get more folks into the smart showrooms, but they are still very limited. Still not going to move a lot of them because of limited distribution .
 

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Nissan Service is an oxymoron. From the former owner of the Nissan Cube aka. "bag of recalled crap" Glad I got rid of that bucket before all the new recalls came out. The latest recall I received should have just been a thank you from Nissan on the purchase of your brand new Pinto. Let me just say do not hit a Cube in the ass.

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actually Honda and Isuzu had a deal for several years to produce vehicles for each other because each was lacking vehicles to compete in certain catagories. Honda didn't have an SUV and Isuzu didn't have a mini-van, so Honda agreed to produce the Honda Odyssey with the Isuzu Oasis name and Isuzu agreed to supply Honda with the Isuzu Rodeo under the Passport name. all was well with Isuzu but Honda was getting 'crap' from Isuzu. the Passport was killing Honda's "CSI" (customer service index) in owner surveys. many owners weren't even aware they had an Isuzu built vehicle and when they found out, they were FURIOUS! I know....I had to deal with them in the service drive nearly every day for 3 years. NOT FUN.
Honda owners :rolleyes:.... I've owned two Rodeos and they were quality/serviceable SUV's
 

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i too would like to have a service station atleast in my state :)

by 'service station' I'm guessing you mean "smart center"?

if that's the case, I can't believe someone would go out of state to purchase a car that isn't sold and serviced locally. makes no sense to me. bad enough to have only ONE smart center in town, but NONE? :confused:
 

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by 'service station' I'm guessing you mean "smart center"?

if that's the case, I can't believe someone would go out of state to purchase a car that isn't sold and serviced locally. makes no sense to me. bad enough to have only ONE smart center in town, but NONE? :confused:
In small states, you don't have much choice. So, WV residents can't own a MINI, an Infinity, a smart, or a few other brands? We can only buy Chevy, Ford and Toyota vehicles? Wide open space and peace and quiet do have their drawbacks in some areas. Having an auto strip mall on every corner is one of them. :)
 

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one overly-eager article says "re-badge" and everyone gets upset. read further and you see language like "new global platform" and "based on vehicle architecture from Nissan".
everyone knows Renault-Nissan-Daimler are cooperating on various projects, and that this represents "the first vehicle for the U.S. market under an expanded partnership between Smart parent Daimler AG, Renault SA and Nissan."
"shared global platform" does not mean re-badging. A forfive model, placeholder or not, in place for 2-3 years before the 2014 model previously announced is a win-win.

"The yet-to-be-named new Smart subcompact will be built on a new global platform in one of Nissan's manufacturing plants in North America, Smart USA spokesman Rick Bourgoise said."
I'm sorry Denny... but I am going to have to disagree completley. Ignoring the fact that the side profile ( and position of the antenna too) is a dead ringer for the Micra, There is simply not enough time for this car to be engineered from the ground up. This car is literally supposed to be out a year from now. Cars take years to be engineered. This new smart according to smartusa will simply not have the time to be "unique". The "new" platform is Nissan's new V platform which differs from the currently used B platform that is used on the Juke, Versa and Cube. This V platform is used only on the Micra/March as of right now. It is global of course. So that could be an answer for the "new" platform. There will probably only be time for reskinning and interior design.
 

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From the horse's mouth (Daimler)
>> smart USA plans to launch five-door model
Detroit/Stuttgart. smart USA intends to launch a five-door car on the US market within the next 15 months. This was announced by smart USA in Detroit today.

The B-segment five-door car is to be sold solely in the United States and is based on vehicle architecture from Nissan. This will allow the demand of US smart customers and dealers for a larger but smart-typical car to be fulfilled very soon.

“We are faced with continuing customer demand for a smart car with more seating capacity,” explained Roger Penske, Chairman of the Penske Automotive Group. “Sales and service of the five seater will be carried out exclusively by our approximately 75 smart dealerships in the United States. Together with Nissan, we will bring to market a fully equipped small car for our customers and dealers in the USA. It will fit in well with the smart brand.”

Further details of the product and its distribution will be announced at a later date.

smart USA, a company of the Penske Automotive Group, opened up the micro-car segment in the United States with the launch of the smart fortwo in 2008, and recently created great interest with the announcement of the smart fortwo electric drive.

Further information on smart USA is available on the Internet:
smart USA - open your mind to the car that challenges the status quo
Source: smart USA plans to launch five-door model | Daimler Global Media Site > Company > Business News
 

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Yay....now I love my Smart. But I want the dealerships to have more models so people can walk in the door and thus, more employees.
 
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