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Hey All,

Does any know of a mod to disable creep mode. Yes, I know that pull it the hand brake up one click will do this, but I don’t want to listen to the constant beeping, or lost the functionality should I accidentally leave the brake on.

I also don’t want to lose traction control or ABS, so popping the fuse isn’t an option.

Can something be done in hardware or software using Xentry/DAS with a Star Diagnostic machine?

Thanks in Advance!
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I've been searching for a way to disable creep mode for years. I've yet to hear of a successful way to do so without also disabling ABS and ESP.

Likewise, I wonder if anyone's found out how to kill traction control in a 453. lol
 

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Hey All,

Does any know of a mod to disable creep mode. Yes, I know that pull it the hand brake up one click will do this, but I don’t want to listen to the constant beeping, or lost the functionality should I accidentally leave the brake on.

I also don’t want to lose traction control or ABS, so popping the fuse isn’t an option.

Can something be done in hardware or software using Xentry/DAS with a Star Diagnostic machine?

Thanks in Advance!
-v-
Turn the beeping down or off, Jumper wire to press a button or flip a switch to tell the car the e brake is up one. Sorta like grounding the gear shift to tell the car its in park so we car watch the DVDs while we are driving. I expect three of you to get this done, Vadsoom, Dream CarOwner, and Smart car aka HandyDan.
 

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Turn the beeping down or off, Jumper wire to press a button or flip a switch to tell the car the e brake is up one. Sorta like grounding the gear shift to tell the car its in park so we car watch the DVDs while we are driving. I expect three of you to get this done, Vadsoom, Dream CarOwner, and Smart car aka HandyDan.
Very Interesting….

I’ll think that one through… not easy do disable the brake light, but that not be too bad and might act as a reminder the brake lever is up. The beeper might be the same one used for the turn signal clicks and is mounted on the speedometer’s circuit board. There isn’t much real estate inside to mount it externally, but it’s not beyond the scope of reality.

Loss of the click, plus my addled brain might make for some forgotten turn signals and frustrated fellow motorists.

Let me think on this idea and see if I can make it work…
 

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The click and the one click up on the hand brake are different sound sources. The one click up sound seems to be more in line with the door open and seatbelt sound source.
 

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Anybody look at how the car knows the handbrake is up? The creep is obviously electronically controlled so you would have to see what is happening in between the handbrake and the car. We know that one click up doesn't really activate the brakes enough to affect driving at all so maybe it's electronic? My guess is that one of the cables on the handbrake (I think I saw 2 or 3) turns on the light on the dash, and tells the car to not creep forwards. Maybe you could see if maybe the handbrake works as a ground and permanently ground it by splicing into the wires. Worth a try, only costs ~$7 for a small spool of wire and ~$15 for a small box of assorted crimp connections. Might permanently turn the dash light on, same with the beep, but there might be ways to turn those off.

I'm also curious as to why you would want to disable it in the first place. I will admit, sometimes my car creeps faster than expected, but I just press the brake all the way and pull the handbrake when somebody is behind me.
 

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Anybody look at how the car knows the handbrake is up? The creep is obviously electronically controlled so you would have to see what is happening in between the handbrake and the car. We know that one click up doesn't really activate the brakes enough to affect driving at all so maybe it's electronic? My guess is that one of the cables on the handbrake (I think I saw 2 or 3) turns on the light on the dash, and tells the car to not creep forwards. Maybe you could see if maybe the handbrake works as a ground and permanently ground it by splicing into the wires. Worth a try, only costs ~$7 for a small spool of wire and ~$15 for a small box of assorted crimp connections. Might permanently turn the dash light on, same with the beep, but there might be ways to turn those off.

I'm also curious as to why you would want to disable it in the first place. I will admit, sometimes my car creeps faster than expected, but I just press the brake all the way and pull the handbrake when somebody is behind me.
I personally don't like the creep when in stop and go bumper to bumper traffic. At those times I use the one click up to disable it. I will also say that when I drove my car for a 3 months or so with a ABS/ESP issue that also disabled the creep I enjoyed the cars driving characteristics much more. It is also a thing to manage when parking in tight spots. So if I had a switch to shut it off at will, I think I would shut it off some times. It is however helpful on hills as it also the hill assist and keeps you from rolling backwards as if in neutral when you lift off the brake. So I don't know that I want it gone just to turn it off at will. If the faint warning beep was shut off when the one click up is in use, living with the brake light on is easy enough and that would serve the purpose for me.
 

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So I don't know that I want it gone just to turn it off at will. If the faint warning beep was shut off when the one click up is in use, living with the brake light on is easy enough and that would serve the purpose for me.
You could wire in a switch, then 3d print an adapter for the switch where the coin holder is. Doesn't seem like too hard a task to design and print a simple mount. Would just then need to figure out how to turn off the beep.
 

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I have a European “Eco” switch that would be ideal for that function. I just need to find the time to work on it. I think it’s going to be a bit more involved than toggling or preventing a switch from working, but the error might be worth it.
 
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