Me too; please read Shanna's post #37 again. He didn't say he doesn't know now; he told Shanna "dealer most likely wouldn't know "well in advance" - a totally different thing. No dealer knows now because, as you say, the list isn't out. Once the list is out they will know exactly who has cars reserved in their area and should call to get the purchase process going, not wait until the cars come in. The reserver (us) has 30 days to take the deal; the car isn't an orphan until the buyer rejects the car [could be 1 day or 30 days.] At that point the car is an orphan and the dealer can go to the options in nscaler's post. Peace.