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A strange thing happened to me today when I left from work at noon.

It was quite warm out mid 80's, I started my smart up and pulled out of the parking lot. I noticed the Traction control light was on.. I stopped and shut off the ignition, and restarted. Everything looked fine. As I pul;led out onto the street, all the dash lights started flickering on and off quickly, and the engine started lurching like it was in the wrong gear. I pulled over and shut off the ignition again. Restarted and the engine light, brake light and ABS ligt stayed on as did the traction cotntrol light. I quickly checked for smoke from under the dash (none thank you) and called my buddies at Smart Bloomington, with visions of another burning car in my mind.


I then shut off the ignition again, waited a bit and restarted..... Everything went back to normal.....

I had taken the afternoon off to have my rear window checked out at the dealer so I headed on up (about 73 miles) and the car worked fine.

Joe up at Bloomington Smartcenter came up with 2 1/2 pages of error codes and descrptions from the incedent.. He asked about the ScangaugeII which I had removed from my previous car and installed in my new car. It is being sent in for testing to see if it has a problem...


My question is

Anyone have their ScangaugeII mounted on the dash in direct sunlight and had problems on hot days??

Mine has been sitting on the dash since I got this car about a month ago, and it was in my last car for 7 months before that.
Looking for a common item between the 2 cars. it is either the Scangauge or the hubcaps...

P.S. the Smart car is fine, doesn't seem to have suffered any any damage except to my ego.
 

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Have mine on dash on Velcro right before where pods would be if you had them so it's in direct sunlight. I have absolutely no problems but have had mine for a month now.
 

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Mine rests on my black dash. July through October 2008 and, so far, March to July 2009. No problems. BTW, highs in the mid 80s won't be seen here again until mid Fall. Mid (to upper) 90s is the norm.
 

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I'm left wondering if there's too much traffic on the CAN bus or if there's a conflict in addressing that didn't resolve quickly.

What functions do you typically use? And are those functions typical of most users?
 

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I've left my Scangauge in direct dash sunlight, up to 110 degree outside temps, since May 2008 (installed immediately on delivery). Not a single problem - the gauge gets dark with the heat, and it can't be good for it, but everything works flawlessly. I scan for codes every few days and haven't gotten one so far.
 

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Mine ( In a differant car ) did not have any issues in the heat. It does fail to wake up in the cold from time to time. Can't say I blame it. I wonder if the plug expanding or contracting in differant temp. could be an issue?
 

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I use speed, MPG, FWT and RPM only. The cable and gauge and port showed no noticable damage and it appears to work normally. I have had it sitting on the dash of both cars since Sept. of last year. Temps have been higher than the two times I had problems (with each car) My cars have both been Black/Black Pure(s) so there isn't a lot of stuff on the Can Bus. No power windows, seats, paddle shift etc. It has been velcro'd on the dash in the same spot, right where the Pods normally are.


It's tough to not be paranoid when everyone is out to get you....
 

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My very first scangauge was brand new... and it did a whole bunch of weird stuff to the car... check engine light on, can't clear it, can't communicate to the car and if I changed settings it would literally shut my car down even if i'm in drive! It was dangerous... eventually I sent it into scangauge the company and they replaced it and it was all well... try unplugging the scanguage and see if it still has issues... mines only had issues when I had it plugged in so yes the scangauge could give you problems if it's broken.. =P

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This is probably an off-the-wall question born of ignorance, but here it goes anyway. If a malfunctioning Scangauage can cause all these weird things that LittoDevil described, is there any way it could have contributed to your fire?
 

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While possible, it's extremely unlikely that a software timeout due to missed CAN bus communications would cause anything harmful. That would be superbly bad design on the part of the software architects. The Scangauge sits on the ODB-II port and can't affect anything beyond CAN communications. The "limp home mode" can be caused (I believe) by a CAN bus that stops responding properly. Not fire. I hope.
 

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I believe (and it is just an opinion here) that the fire may have caused damage to the Scangauge. I was told the fire started in the relay section of the SAM, it is doubtful the Scangauge could have caused that.

Also note that the Scangauge has been working fine up until this incedent and continued to work afterwards. No apparent damage is evident, cable looks fine, plug (both ends) looks good etc. I am just wondering what the symptoms of a defective gauge would cause.

Just to be on the safe side, I polished the flames and bought a fire extinguisher for under the seat.. no more bad MoJo...
 

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well, this last weekend, the wife and I were within a mile of where my car burned. It was scarry for her as we were both in the car, heading to a family outing and we had vegetable trays... same as last time. the big difference was.... the veggies did not get cooked, and we drove home with no smoke. The fire extinguisher is still under the seat.

Thanks for the flames offer but they might be a bit much on my Black/black car.

I'm thinking Scangauge has a problem with their units, not sure mine wll be put back in if I ever get it back.
 

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well, this last weekend, the wife and I were within a mile of where my car burned. It was scarry for her as we were both in the car, heading to a family outing and we had vegetable trays... same as last time. the big difference was.... the veggies did not get cooked, and we drove home with no smoke. The fire extinguisher is still under the seat.

Thanks for the flames offer but they might be a bit much on my Black/black car.
I think we got the root cause it was the vegetables presence that caused your SAM to melt. :D ...... ok maybe not so much so.
 

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The veggies were in a cooler in the back, not strung across the dash. If I would have known, maybe some garlic or something...
 
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