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http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=85195

San Mateo Daily Journal said:
The parking lot attendant took one look at the diminutive Smart fortwo car I was driving and congratulated me on having a “nice roller skate.”

A neighbor nicknamed the fortwo “the pod” because of its tall, round shape; more than a half dozen people asked where the plug is for this new car.

They assumed the smallest and lightest-weight new car in America — measuring just 8.83 feet long from bumper to bumper, or 3.3 feet shorter than a Mini Cooper hatchback — is a little electric-powered vehicle.

But they’re wrong.
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I think men might bear the brunt of the jokes because they're driving something that is described as "cute."...I'm already waiting for the first one to tell me that the golf course is three blocks that way...which it is. Ya know, that's ok with me.

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I think men might bear the brunt of the jokes because they're driving something that is described as "cute."
My biggest problem when driving the smart last year cross country was rest stops when I really didn't have time to answer questions! I really had to stop, and it wasn't to pump gas after driving for a few hours.

I got them all, too. "Is that electric?" while filling up with gas. "Can you go on the freeway?" at a freeway rest stop.

You will be the center of attention both in and outside your car for months! Get used to it. I suggest carrying a lot of brochures and your salesman's business card.
 

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OK, she is a "critic" and entitled to her opinion. Or does she have an agenda? "Ann Job" sounds like a you know what nom de plume!

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And with that, Carnut....

OK, she is a "critic" and entitled to her opinion. Or does she have an agenda? "Ann Job" sounds like a you know what nom de plume!

;)
I didn't think there was a San Mateo County in Michigan???
Sounds like that's where the critique came from.....Michigan :rolleyes:

Takes all kinds....;)
As a critic, she should know NOT to believe everything she reads...especially the gas mileage numbers. I personally think the guy that drove the test to determine the mileage on the Smart MUST have had steel toed, size 14 shoes and a right foot that would uncontrollably twitch once every few minutes....:D
 

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Ann Job said:
And in the test car, the plastic interior trim that was supposed to be attached to the rear tailgate would separate from the metal tailgate every time I opened it.
That's because she kept reaching and and pulling the center handle that releases the inside cover for the tailgate that holds the bars in the cabrio or hidden storage in all others. You have to release the two latches on the left and right sides to lower the tailgate.

Common problem, too bad she didn't investigate to see why she was doing that.

Also, she is an AP automobile reporter, based in Detroit. Story just appeared in the San Mateo paper.
 

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nothing really new here.

in fact, she really didn't even touch on some more significant problems and issues, as mentioned in a late post in the best review thread.

also, while you may think there is all this big interest in the car, don't buy it for that reason. I stayed around the smart cars until closing at the july event.

with about an hour to go to closing, around 6 pm or so, still broad daylight (sunset later near 9 pm) , everyone had pretty well gone home, the cars appeared near deserted. smart cars still there, now nearly alone, waiting for someone to have an interest in driving them.

it was erie in a way. during the peak mid day hours, people casually milling around, to see what it was. it was as though, they saw what it was, said ok, then, bye-bye.

it makes one wonder, if you really ant to spend nearly $30k pretax earnings, for a car, you can see on the lot for a few hours, see on the road here and there as it hits the streets, then, one gets their fill, and then they go back to the day to day lives.

and, if ones present car is still in satisfactory condition, working ok, one gets the new look visual pleasure around introduction, while someone else pays to show it to you, and your $30k pretax earnings money stays in the bank growing.

there just seems so many issues with the car, and, its just a tiny car, but selling at a big near $30k pretax earnings price. the small size of the smart, seems like it would be more appropriately priced at just under $10k after tax dollars.

but at the same time, all the other cars, are priced the same, or a lot more. although, they all are also bigger cars.

and the other thing i noticed, by hanging around all day at the event (making sure to pick the best colors to my eye), toward the end of the day, the smart cars really started to look small. very small. near tiny. with the question keep coming to mind, "are you sure you want to do this?"

the local dealership, a split off attachment to a mercedes dealer, says smart will likely open sometime during the second week of january, and should hopefully also have a smart to view then.

that should prove important, to see if its a final go, or not.

to sit in the car again, look over everything, take another real test drive, this time possibly including the highway, to see, if it will be a car that will give long term satisfaction, or may be just a quick new fad, that tends to fade over a year or so.
 

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This is a riot!

San Mateo County borders the city and county of San Francisco. It's southern portion borders the beginning of Silicon Valley. Historically, it is fairly conservative. Demographically, portions of it are very affluent but it is not as affluent as a whole as Santa Clara County to its south.

When I grew up on the peninsula, the San Mateo Times was something you might not admit to subscribing to. My take is that the only people taking the SM Journal seriously are those who are working or perhaps donating their time.

You just gotta know that I could prattle off and entertain myself with a bunch of remarks, but I don't think this one needs to be taken too seriously. I'd love to know what "lengthy" bridge she is referring to. I'm guessing it is not the San Mateo or Dumbarton Bridges, not the Bay Bridge or the Golden Gate. It's probably the Eugene Duran Memorial Bridge which spans two hills for Highway 280 ... and most vehicles shorter than an S class are going to have a rhythym.

Thanks for the post and chuckle.
 

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it makes one wonder, if you really ant to spend nearly $30k pretax earnings, for a car, you can see on the lot for a few hours, see on the road here and there as it hits the streets, then, one gets their fill, and then they go back to the day to day lives.

and, if ones present car is still in satisfactory condition, working ok, one gets the new look visual pleasure around introduction, while someone else pays to show it to you, and your $30k pretax earnings money stays in the bank growing.

there just seems so many issues with the car, and, its just a tiny car, but selling at a big near $30k pretax earnings price. the small size of the smart, seems like it would be more appropriately priced at just under $10k after tax dollars.
I'm not sure I understand your $30K scenario. The Smart looks like it would come in under $20K, tax and license out the door, for a Cabrio with every option.
 

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By pretax, Cash is saying you need to earn 30K to net out the cost of a smart fully loaded.

;)

He has still ignored requests for him to tell us what he configured.
 

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The smart is the kind of car not everyone will like- I think we just have to accept that fact! Many of my friends have simply told me that they'd rather not ride in it as they would feel unsafe - so be it. But I want one and I will get because I want it- not because I seek everyone's approval.
 

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Ahah....thanks for that tidbit of info, 8-4-2

This is a riot!

San Mateo County borders the city and county of San Francisco. It's southern portion borders the beginning of Silicon Valley. Historically, it is fairly conservative. Demographically, portions of it are very affluent but it is not as affluent as a whole as Santa Clara County to its south.

When I grew up on the peninsula, the San Mateo Times was something you might not admit to subscribing to. My take is that the only people taking the SM Journal seriously are those who are working or perhaps donating their time.

You just gotta know that I could prattle off and entertain myself with a bunch of remarks, but I don't think this one needs to be taken too seriously. I'd love to know what "lengthy" bridge she is referring to. I'm guessing it is not the San Mateo or Dumbarton Bridges, not the Bay Bridge or the Golden Gate. It's probably the Eugene Duran Memorial Bridge which spans two hills for Highway 280 ... and most vehicles shorter than an S class are going to have a rhythym.

Thanks for the post and chuckle.
I know the rhythym of which you speak and have noticed it on other bridges as you go over them. The peaks and valleys of the bridge roadway sagging slightly was probably exacerbated by the Smarts very short wheelbase whereas vehicles with longer wheelbases would not be so noticeable.....good point.

Another good point was Dickey's insofar as the storage compartment. I didn't realize that it had latches and it makes sense that when the latches are released, the compartment cover opens...and she thought it was the panel falling off!!??? :eek:
Good thing she doesn't work for Consumer Reports!!!!! LOLOL :):)
 

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Another good point was Dickey's insofar as the storage compartment. I didn't realize that it had latches and it makes sense that when the latches are released, the compartment cover opens...and she thought it was the panel falling off!!??? :eek:
Good thing she doesn't work for Consumer Reports!!!!! LOLOL :):)
I encountered this when the smart tour came to San Jose. When I went to open the tailgate, I looked for a handle in the center of the tailgate (the usual location), not finding one on the outside, I reached in and found one inside. Surprisingly, the storage compartment cover came off. I learned later that the latches for the tailgate are at either side, both need to be undone to lower the tailgate. This may be an ergonomics problem with our favorite car; we're used to cars having such handles in the center. Plus, how does it work when one arm is full? Can the tailgate be opened with one hand?
 

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OK, she is a "critic" and entitled to her opinion. Or does she have an agenda? "Ann Job" sounds like a you know what nom de plume!

;)
Actually, she's not a critic. I'm very surprised at the tone of this article coming from her. Here's a bio:

Award-winning journalist, Ann Job, was the first female national auto writer for The Associated Press and among the first women to cover the Detroit auto beat in the early '80s. She worked as an auto writer at The Detroit News, auto editor at the Detroit Free Press and executive business editor at The Detroit News. She also has written freelance stories for Car & Driver, AutoWeek, Cosmo and a host of newspapers. Ann won a UPI spot news reporting award for her coverage of GM's then-new Saturn auto company in '85. She also won the Ken W. Purdy Award in 1987 for excellence in auto journalism for her work on an investigative series about sudden acceleration. She served as Consumer Editor at MSN's Carpoint website and is currently the AP's test driver of new vehicles.
 

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I encountered this when the smart tour came to San Jose. When I went to open the tailgate, I looked for a handle in the center of the tailgate (the usual location), not finding one on the outside, I reached in and found one inside. Surprisingly, the storage compartment cover came off. I learned later that the latches for the tailgate are at either side, both need to be undone to lower the tailgate. This may be an ergonomics problem with our favorite car; we're used to cars having such handles in the center. Plus, how does it work when one arm is full? Can the tailgate be opened with one hand?
Sure, but one latch at a time. It takes getting used to, I'm afraid. At least the window goes up with just a push of the remote control.
 
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