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Anyone use a different size tire on their 453?

Was thinking of slightly wider and slightly higher sidewalk

175 65r15 (fronts)
195 60r15 (rears)

Was wondering if anyone used that size,if there were any rubbing in the front? (When tires are turned)
 

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195/60r15 is 24.2" in diameter; which is a good to keep in mind for stock height 453s.

I've lowered mine (Lorinser springs) and thus keep the tire diameter close to the stock 23.2".
I'll say it again 'The stock Conti's are Loud' :)

I run the 'Sport 8Y' 16" rims, 205/45r16 Front - 225/40r16 Rear, 23.1/23.2" diameter tires on a lowered 453.

 

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Mailman, you have no rub with the 205s on the front?

I just bought a stock 453 cabrio with the sport package hence 16" wheels, and I actually lost control of the vehicle for several seconds during the drive home while on a connector ramp with a fairly extreme curve. Discovered once home that the dealership, in rotating the tires, had put the 205s on the front and the 185s on the rear. That's when it occurred to me that the sensation I felt in the vehicle when I lost control was that a wheel had made contact with some obstruction.
 

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I believe your issue is not rubbing but having more grip in the front than the rear.
MB designed the Smarts with thinner tires up front, thicker tires in the rear because they failed the 'Elk Test' with their small A series model.
Basically, you turn abruptly and the fronts are supposed to break free first, so as not to roll over.

Stock rim widths go as follows:
450 Front 4.5 Rear 5.5
451 Front 4.5 Rear 5.5
453 Front 5.0 Rear 5.5 (15")
453 Front 6.0 Rear 6.5 (16")

The 453 was designed with the least amount of 'understeer' with only 0.5" difference between front and rear.
So in my case with 205s up front, I chose (and located in Europe actually) 225s for the rear, preserving the 1" tire width difference.

The 'spec' sticker on the tires in the picture above is USA on the left and EU on the right.
Interestingly, the EU sticker has the '71db' at the bottom for tire noise.
I looked up the EU sticker for the stock Contis and they are '94db'!...
 

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I'm running 195/60r15s on all four corners of my 453 using four rear wheels and have no rubbing at all.
Wow 195 on the front.. I was a little concerned about traction control kicking in (for my tire size change) but if your running 195 all around..I'm assuming no issues with tcs
 

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195/60r15 is 24.2" in diameter; which is a good to keep in mind for stock height 453s.

I've lowered mine (Lorinser springs) and thus keep the tire diameter close to the stock 23.2".
I'll say it again 'The stock Conti's are Loud' :)

I run the 'Sport 8Y' 16" rims, 205/45r16 Front - 225/40r16 Rear, 23.1/23.2" diameter tires on a lowered 453.

Your running two different tires(brand)??
 

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Mailman, you have no rub with the 205s on the front?

I just bought a stock 453 cabrio with the sport package hence 16" wheels, and I actually lost control of the vehicle for several seconds during the drive home while on a connector ramp with a fairly extreme curve. Discovered once home that the dealership, in rotating the tires, had put the 205s on the front and the 185s on the rear. That's when it occurred to me that the sensation I felt in the vehicle when I lost control was that a wheel had made contact with some obstruction.
Wth that dealership is incompetent.. they should know our tires are staggered
 

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Anyone use a different size tire on their 453?

Was thinking of slightly wider and slightly higher sidewalk

175 65r15 (fronts)
195 60r15 (rears)

Was wondering if anyone used that size,if there were any rubbing in the front? (When tires are turned)
Depending on the rims you have. I installed the same tires from rear in front and the look nicer .205 /45/16😉
 

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I’ve tried quite a few tire size setups on mine, and the best I’ve found is 205/50r15 all around, gives good grip and it’s not a terribly harsh ride. I’m on 15x7 +20 wheels all around and madness lowering springs and I don’t have any rubbing issues
 

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Thanks for the heads up.. I am only going for slightly larger (all around) it's my commuter car so I'm just trying to soften it up a bit more..
 

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Wth that dealership is incompetent.. they should know our tires are staggered
A bit of a late reply, but don't don't be surprised if people have a brain fart working in places where you'd hope they wouldn't. I took my 453 to a local-ish Mavis Discount Tire to have 4 new tires put on, and to get an alignment. Went back later to pick up my car, and as i was walking up to it, something looked off. They had the front tires on the drivers side, and the rear tires on the passenger side. Talk about what could have been an AWFUL drive home. haha
 

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Places like mavis I would understand in a little mix up.. reason being those types of places hire new techs straight out of trade schools..
A dealership on the other hand (granted yes they work mainly on mercedes) but would have seen thier fair share of fortwos.
 
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