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I live in San Diego and I'm not sure I really like the idea of leather seats (sticky in hot weather), nor do I need heated seats. I do want power steering, however (I think). What's your take on cloth vs. leather for the comfort,price, etc.

My current color obsession is white with silver tridion and red interior--would the black leather look to harsh with that combo?

Is the $850 for the Comfort package a better deal than just getting the power steering as a stand alone? And what about the factory alarm system--good or a waste of $$$

Thanks all!
 

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It's not just the seats its the entire interior will have the black theme and is just too hot for SD. I too will order Power Steering, and I like the auto off lights. Too bad there is not a beige leather option in the comfort package, I am sticking with the cloth. From the other forums the power steering option is highly rated.
 

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I've had similar thoughts. As to the power steering I read some threads on various forums that it was not necessary, however I also read a book giving the full history of the car and the Europeans were not happy with the HEAVY steering effort for such a light car, so I'm going with the power steering. Alarm system, if you want it sounds fair, but any system of this type can be thwarted by a professional thief, so I'm passing on it. As to the leather, I will reserve judgement until I can touch and sit in one. What will the rest of the interior look like with the black leather option? Cloth will breathe, but in San Diego the leather will not be a problem other than looks.
 

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FWIW Our current car is the first with black leather and it does not seem that much worse than previous tan and gray interiors. We are in the KC area where upper 90's and fairly high humidity are the rule
 

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Personally I think alarms in general are a waste. Easily bypassed and usually ignored by people. If you really want to protect your car I'd say $500 for Lojack or another true recovery system makes alot more sense.
 

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Yeah I concur. Every time I hear a car alarm go off I get annoyed and dont even care. In terms of the comfort package, I dont see the need for it unless you really want heated seats. I live just south of Buffalo New York and it real cold here in the winter but I have never felt that I have needed heated seats. The only option I want thats included in the comfort package is the power steering.

The only options I want are the premium sound system package. And then additional instruments and power steering.
 

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I have black leather in my Audi TT in Texas where 100+ degree days are not uncommon. A sunshade and tinted glass will work wonders on any car. I've had black interiors in lots of cars and generally think the concern over black leather is more myth than anything...it may contribute a few more degrees, but when you plop down and your flesh starts becoming one with the seat, you can't really tell if the surface temperature if the leather is 150 or 155 degrees. :eek:

Alarms as one commented earlier are more of an irritant than protection. If you think a stranger is going to run over to defend your car when they hear the alarm - think again. The money would be better spent on a Lojack system...it's much more fun to track the a-hole and arrest him rather than have a screaming siren announce to you and the World that your car's been screwed up by some lowlife.
 

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I don't know how the new smart is set up but on the 450 if you break into the car and jam a screwdriver or whatever in the ignition key the car will not start. There is an imobilizer that unless you hit the unlock button on the key, the car will not start. Again I don't know if the new smart will have the same set up.
 

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No comfort package for me

Eight hundred and fifty dollars for the comfort package? :eek: No way. Isn't this supposed to be a low-priced economy car? Mine will already come to over $15K, not including delivery, taxes, etc.

Wipers that turn themselves on? I can tell when it's raining!

Headlights that turn on and off by themselves? I can turn them on when it's dark and off when I park it - all by myself! I have these features on my current car. I've disabled them both.

Leather seats? In an economy car? And only available as part of a black interior.

Heated seats? Great in Canada. Minnesota, North Dakota, etc. Not needed in southern Michigan.

For me, the features included in the comfort package are contrary to the character of the car. You want a luxo-cruiser? OK. Get one. Want the best small-carbon-footprint car available in America? Keep it simple. Open your mind. Get a smart. :)
 

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I concur. I did not get the comfort package because I wanted the beige cloth seats. I did go ahead and get the fog lights, PS though.
 

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Merely a question, Sisyphus, not a personal affront, so no vitriol necessary. And my carbon foot print (as well as my other footprint) is tiny, thanks :)
 

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For me, the features included in the comfort package are contrary to the character of the car. You want a luxo-cruiser? OK. Get one. Want the best small-carbon-footprint car available in America? Keep it simple. Open your mind. Get a smart. :)
How exactly do these features increase the carbon footprint of this car? And not everybody will buy a smart for the one particular set of reasons.
 

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I plan to get the Confort package. I think a Silver/Silver Cabrio with Black leather will look alittle upscale but yet serve its purpose of being easy to clean, I will like the use of heated seats and I just love that leather smell cars have. But also it will look simular to the Brabus Edition with black leather so since thats the look im going for I will stick with Black Leather.
 

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I know without ever seeing that I want the full monty.... but then I am buying this as a silly fun car and and I can afford the toy and all of it's options. Side benefit is reduction of gas use and wear and tear on my other commuter cars (the Escort gets 23MPG)

I too live in sunny Central Texas and exclusively buy leather interiors... IMO Black leather is no more hotter or cooler then any other interiors I have

I am slightly tempted to order the red cloth interior and have the seats redone in leather locally (It is not that expensive and there are only two of them)

The red interior should look better with my color combos then an ALL black interior would but this is something I need to see next week when I go to our local Street Smart tour ride day.

I don't know enough about the factory alarm system but my insurance company always gives me a modest discount for having the factory system as opposed to no system.

A/C is a must here and wife and I are both disabled veterans most of our injuries are hips and back..so I know that heated seats on a 25 degree morning are a way of life us (in our 50s and both retired Army). If I do opt for the cloth, and redo to leather, I will retro-fit aftermarket heat pads.

Would be nice to drive both a manual and electric power steer to feel the difference-- but failing that--- I will assume they offer the option for more reasons then just pure profit and I will option it in

No fancy factory stereo because I have a lot of fun making car stereos better with aftermarket head units, amps, and speakers. As a Ham Radio operator (KD5NCO) I will be putting in an HF/VHF/UHF transceiver and antenna

I hold no ill will or attitude to any citizen who wants this car for a minimalist reason, ecology minded, or reduction of personal carbon footprint reason...Good on ya! There is nothing wrong with that thinking or motivation!

I sure would appreciate the same respect for my decisions and motivations
 

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Yes

But that is because I like to fill the sound stage and think the best way is a set of rears properly faded

The 2005 Smart I drove in Germany was a good enough interior with the windows up to be able to enjoy subtle music (well as much as any car's interior can be)

What I am saying is; this car is not horrid like the VW Beatles of yester year and you can expect if you get a good head unit, amp and properly sized and placed speakers, to have a fairly decent acoustical environment where you could fill the cabin with Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture and actually sense the subtleties as well as boom the cannons respectfully loud

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I see people worry all the time about leather being too cold or hot. The beauty of leather is it doesn't get hot, cold, or sticky like plastic. And once you have heated seats you won't ever go back.
 
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