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for those of you that have an 08 and have had the re-flash what in your opinion are the differences. do you like it, hate it, what would you ask for in the 3.0 re-flash if there ever is one....
 

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Had it done yesterday, and honestly I haven't noticed anything because I never have driven it in "D" (where I think most of the improvement lies). My wife may see something after driving it. To me the change in paddle shifting is inconsequential as I am always in hand-manual.

There are a couple of legal things to be done besides the electronics - the original VIN label has to be changed because it was found that it could be removed intact, and the original VECI lable could become unreadable. Only certain vehicles with certain options get the battery upgrade (I didn't), and you are given an arguably better owners manual.

Update: My wife, a "D" shifter, has had some seat time and feels it is better now, though she still feels I can shift smoother in hand-manual.
 

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Had it done yesterday, and honestly I haven't noticed anything because I never have driven it in "D" (where I think most of the improvement lies). My wife may see something after driving it. To me the change in paddle shifting is inconsequential as I am always in hand-manual.

There are a couple of legal things to be done besides the electronics - the original VIN label has to be changed because it was found that it could be removed intact, and the original VECI lable could become unreadable. Only certain vehicles with certain options get the battery upgrade (I didn't), and you are given an arguably better (slightly better) owners manual.
I had my upgrade done Saturday, 3/14/09, and I got the new battery, transmission, stickers, and a few other things. The battery upgrade is I believe for the Passion with factory alarm. The transmission upgrade does make some difference in the quickness of the auto shifts , and I like the ability to shift to the manual mode with the paddles.
 

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In a week and 1/2 I take my 'o8 passion (w/o alarm) with comfort pkg for it's annual physical. I expect the oil change and everything that's listed for this checkup.

Am I correct in that I'll get a new batt. and a transmission reprog along with the usual?
 

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battery is for comfort package (auto wipers and headlamps). vehci labels and owners manual and reprogram is for all cars. then there is a vin label replacement for certain cars if needed
I do not have auto-wipers/headlamps, or comfort package but I got the new battery. I do have a very early build date.
 

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Do we have to wait for a letter from smart usa or the dealer to get these upgrades? I haven't been notified, but my 08 has comfort pack, so I would think I'd be invited for the new battery as well as the flash.




What's a girl gotta do to get flashed? :p
 

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Do we have to wait for a letter from smart usa or the dealer to get these upgrades? I haven't been notified, but my 08 has comfort pack, so I would think I'd be invited for the new battery as well as the flash.




What's a girl gotta do to get flashed? :p
just email me!!! HE HE HE HE

Sorry you asked for that one. :)
 

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Having prior notice of the upgrade, I contacted my dealer directly before receiving any notification. It speeds things up if you have the last six digits of your VIN available. Mine was done yesterday, still without any specific notification. The important thing is that you have to go to your original delivering dealer; they have the specific "package" for your particular VIN. You can't stop by some other dealer for a quick fix because it is convenient. If you have bought a previously-owned '08, you will have to determine who the original dealer was.

It was once said on one of the upgrade threads that you need to bring both keys. Nope.
 

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The important thing is that you have to go to your original delivering dealer; they have the specific "package" for your particular VIN. You can't stop by some other dealer for a quick fix because it is convenient. If you have bought a previously-owned '08, you will have to determine who the original dealer was.
Any smart service department can look your car up to see what specific package the car needs. You just have to call them ahead of time. There's no way I'm driving to Linden UT to get my upgrade. - sheureka
 

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Any smart service department can look your car up to see what specific package the car needs. You just have to call them ahead of time. There's no way I'm driving to Linden UT to get my upgrade. - sheureka
No. The required, official, legal door jamb replacement VIN sticker that comes with the physical package is pre-printed with the vehicle's VIN and sent to the original delivering dealer. The original VIN sticker has to be removed, accounted for, and returned to "somewhere," for which the dealer is responsible.

Is it possible to have the package transferred between dealers? Dunno, but there is a specific package for a specific VIN. If it can't be transferred, Happy Motoring.
 

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i was originally told that it was for comfort cars. how ever litterlaay 30 minutes ago we had just an alarm car as well and it got a battery update as well. so looks like comfort cars and alarm cars are both getting them
I'm gonna keep asking this until someone can provide an answer; the batteries in the 09 cars are the same as in the 08s (42 ah), so why aren't the 09s with alarm and/or comfort package getting new batteries? Has smart engineered something on the 09s to stop the battery drain (and if so, why don't they retrofit "it" to the 08s?) Inquiring minds, etc. :confused:
 

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No. The required, official, legal door jamb replacement VIN sticker that comes with the physical package is pre-printed with the vehicle's VIN and sent to the original delivering dealer. The original VIN sticker has to be removed, accounted for, and returned to "somewhere," for which the dealer is responsible.

Is it possible to have the package transferred between dealers? Dunno, but there is a specific package for a specific VIN. If it can't be transferred, Happy Motoring.
All four of the dealers I've talked to about this have said it's not a problem. First of all, my VIN sticker doesn't have to be replaced so for me that's not an issue. But before we figured that out they all said the sticker could just be sent wherever it needed to go. - sheureka
 

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I'm gonna keep asking this until someone can provide an answer; the batteries in the 09 cars are the same as in the 08s (42 ah), so why aren't the 09s with alarm and/or comfort package getting new batteries? Has smart engineered something on the 09s to stop the battery drain (and if so, why don't they retrofit "it" to the 08s?) Inquiring minds, etc. :confused:
Perhaps nobody here on this forum can supply an answer, only conjecture.
Who controls what's in the upgrade program? What do they have to gain by detailing all the little bits and pieces that go into the decisions?

If the '09 with a 42Ah battery and comfort packages have an issue, chances are these will eventually be replaced as well. It may be an issue that the battery won't charge "as well" later in life but is fine for the first many months. Pure conjecture.

And electronics tend to be more expensive than commodity-volume batteries.
 
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