[1983JZR3W]

I have a 451 and want to buy a long threaded bolt to help align the wheels when I rotate them. Does anyone know the correct thread size? It can't have a head on one end, must be threaded end to end. It will be just to help align the wheel, put the other two bolts in and remove the threaded one by hand. It can be a little long as that will help in gripping it to remove it.

Thanks in advance. I hope one of you tech minded members can help. I should know this, but I can't seem to find the info on here.

 

[jwight]

Thread size appears to be: M12 x 1.50

https://www.carid.com/2011-smart-car-fortwo-lug-nuts-bolts-for-factory-wheels/

I ended up getting one of these guides: https://www.amazon.com/EWK-M12X1-5-...+M12+x+1.5&qid=1559091446&s=automotive&sr=1-1

 

[ca smartone]

Got one of these years ago, well worth the money...


https://www.reverselogic.us/lug-guides.html

 

[atikovi]

I have a 451 and want to buy a long threaded bolt to help align the wheels when I rotate them.

You can't rotate them, they are staggered sizes.

 

[1983JZR3W]

You can't rotate them, they are staggered sizes.

Actually, I can. I have 7.5x17 Brabus wheels on all four corners with 215/35-17 Hankook tires all around. Thanks for your advice, though.

 

[jzchen]

You can't rotate them, they are staggered sizes.

If I recall correctly he has all four rear wheels...

 

[atikovi]

Coulda mentioned that from the getgo.

 

[1983JZR3W]

Hey guys, thanks everyone for all the help. I remember seeing those tools several years ago mentioned on here. I will be ordering one tomorrow.

 

[1983JZR3W]

Coulda mentioned that from the getgo.

Believe it or not, I am actually smart enough to know I can't rotate different size tires and wheels. I do thank you for your concern. :laugh:

 

[Bar None]

I have a 451 and want to buy a long threaded bolt to help align the wheels when I rotate them. Does anyone know the correct thread size? It can't have a head on one end, must be threaded end to end. It will be just to help align the wheel, put the other two bolts in and remove the threaded one by hand. It can be a little long as that will help in gripping it to remove it.

Thanks in advance. I hope one of you tech minded members can help. I should know this, but I can't seem to find the info on here.

New to Smart here. Why do you need this device? Can't you just hold the wheel up and screw in the lug bolt?

 

[atikovi]

New to Smart here. Why do you need this device? Can't you just hold the wheel up and screw in the lug bolt?

Here we go.

 

[1983JZR3W]

New to Smart here. Why do you need this device? Can't you just hold the wheel up and screw in the lug bolt?

I can, but do to old age and arteritis, my hands don't have the flexibility they once had. I take my wheels off every couple of months to clean and wax the inner barrels, and the guide will help hold them while I screw in the wheel bolts.

 

[Jo e Lefors]

You can't rotate them, they are staggered sizes.

I also can rotate mine. I bought a set of rear size wheels and tires, so I would have the same size on all four corners. I like the look of having wider tires on the front.
Rear size is more readily available than the front.

 

[1983JZR3W]

Me too.

 

[jzchen]

Just in case older Mercedes (early 90s W126 or W201) came with tool kits that had one of these hole alignment devices. I checked on McGard website and seems same thread as my mother’s ‘92 190E.

(Just another option for you)...

 

[Bar None]

I also can rotate mine. I bought a set of rear size wheels and tires, so I would have the same size on all four corners. I like the look of having wider tires on the front.
Rear size is more readily available than the front.

Yep, I'll be looking for some rear steel wheels when I need tires on my 2014.

 

[strelnik]

Hey guys, thanks everyone for all the help. I remember seeing those tools several years ago mentioned on here. I will be ordering one tomorrow.

Save the money.
Go to home depot or ace hardware and buy one each 12mm x 1.5mm x 60mm bolt, go home and cut the head off.


Maybe I should start selling these, lol easy to make with my lathe.


BTW they are the same as many popular Mercedes and Bimmers.


The only oddball are the Volvos, which for a long time had 12mm x 1.75mm lug bolts.

 

[Miss Mercedes]

New to Smart here. Why do you need this device? Can't you just hold the wheel up and screw in the lug bolt?

It makes wheel and rotor mounting easier. When my car was young the bolts always came out with ease with a little anti-seize. However, in recent years the bolts seemed to have degraded and seized to the hubs despite the anti-seize. To make matters worse, the degradation was so bad that they instantly rounded out when touched with an impact. Oh well, I drilled both bolts out and have left it that way since. For the 5 minutes those bolts saved me in the past, they added two or three hours to doing my brakes in 2017 (when the bolt on the left side decided to disintegrate) and 2019 (the right side finally followed suit). :shrug:

 

[Specialty_Equipment]

For those members who have decided to run rear wheels on all four corners, I'm curious if you've noticed any reduction in your turning radius? Your answers may save me some time experimenting. thanks!

 

[jimvw57]

Nothing worth mentioning. No rubbing or scraping on hard turns