[TRobinson6]

i bought my 08 in Dec with 28k on it. i asked what service was done and was told oil was changed and there was even a sticker in the corner of the windshield. well i was under it for the first time and (get this) the factory inspection paint was still on the oil plug and oil filter ( and i now have 30k). boy was i ticked off.

i'm calling the dealer tomorrow and giving him a chunk of my mind....not a piece.

 

[jimvw57]

I would be asking some questions too

 

[sokoloff]

Oil change at the dealer may have been done from above without the need to remove the drain plug. Not sure on the filter issue though.

Len
2014 EV

 

[jzchen]

The dealer is not supposed to suck the oil out, because there is a sieve connected to the drain plug, and this is supposed to be cleaned during a change. But I read jimvw57 does it from the top, so maybe that's the way it has been done on this particular car. Hopefully, and maybe the previous owner used Amsoil signature oil, good for 25k miles/but still one year only. (Luckily there is only one car in the household with service literature recommending sucking the oil out. I got one John Dow unit per dealer service equipment suppliers, and I think my air compressor is somewhat small for the job...)

 

[Jo e Lefors]

i bought my 08 in Dec with 28k on it. i asked what service was done and was told oil was changed and there was even a sticker in the corner of the windshield. well i was under it for the first time and (get this) the factory inspection paint was still on the oil plug and oil filter ( and i now have 30k). boy was i ticked off.

i'm calling the dealer tomorrow and giving him a chunk of my mind....not a piece.

Hold that call buddy. Jiffy lube here in Las Vegas puts some kind of thick red paint / sealer with a little embossment across both filter and drain plug. It looked like the factory inspection stuff except it has a Jiffy Lube branded filter on it.
Some type of tamper proofing I was told.
It may not mean the job wasn't done.
I would first ask some probing questions about their procedures and about the red sealer.
If they don't know what you're talking about, then blast away.

If you ever do the oil change yourself don't be surprised at the length of the plug, seems like it about a foot long. It isn't.

JL

 

[TheFadingTheory]

Yes a real shame about people today. I own and run a business and the amount of lies, etc. I here in my travels are truly amzing.

i bought my 08 in Dec with 28k on it. i asked what service was done and was told oil was changed and there was even a sticker in the corner of the windshield. well i was under it for the first time and (get this) the factory inspection paint was still on the oil plug and oil filter ( and i now have 30k). boy was i ticked off.

i'm calling the dealer tomorrow and giving him a chunk of my mind....not a piece.

 

[jzchen]

Hold that call buddy. Jiffy lube here in Las Vegas puts some kind of thick red paint / sealer with a little embossment across both filter and drain plug. It looked like the factory inspection stuff except it has a Jiffy Lube branded filter on it.
Some type of tamper proofing I was told.
It may not mean the job wasn't done.
I would first ask some probing questions about their procedures and about the red sealer.
If they don't know what you're talking about, then blast away.

If you ever do the oil change yourself don't be surprised at the length of the plug, seems like it about a foot long. It isn't.

JL

The salvage yards also use paint on their parts as well, from personal experience. Could be exactly that, someone wanted to make sure nobody else tampered with their work, and then they got the blame for it....

 

[Rustedwrench]

I suggest you get the facts before you get your knickers in a knot. Many shops use a paint stick for warranty purposes. They mark whatever service point or repair was done so they can tell if it should come back whether anybody else has been screwing with it.

Warranty Seal Yellow 1.8 Oz | Miscellaneous | Chemical Product | Wurth Site

 

[Jo e Lefors]

I suggest you get the facts before you get your knickers in a knot. Many shops use a paint stick for warranty purposes. They mark whatever service point or repair was done so they can tell if it should come back whether anybody else has been screwing with it.

Warranty Seal Yellow 1.8 Oz | Miscellaneous | Chemical Product | Wurth Site

So True.
The old 'They didn't put the plug back in tight and all my oil leaked out' scam. I'm sure it has happened, but nowhere near a often as everyone thinks. Jiffy lube and parent company Shell Oil are still going strong.

 

[jzchen]

So True.
The old 'They didn't put the plug back in tight and all my oil leaked out' scam. I'm sure it has happened, but nowhere near a often as everyone thinks. Jiffy lube and parent company Shell Oil are still going strong.

The people that do that should be deported!!! That is horrible....

 

[TRobinson6]

thanks for sharing guys. yeh it was yellow thick hard stuff. kind of like the bike factories put on bolts when inspecting torque specs. the filter was some name brand i had never heard off nor could i find it on the computer and it was an extra 3/4 inch longer but did have the fram number in smaller print besides other numbers.

side question....what is that screen on the drain bolt for? it's too course of a mesh to catch particles. anyway does the oil flow thru the center and out the sides or visa versa?

 

[jsenka]

The screen functions as the oil pump inlet screen. It will catch any big chunks that could trash the oil pump.

 

[jimvw57]

The screen is attached to the drain plug and the oil pickup ins on the forward side of the motor so the oil flows in the end, and through the sides and into the pickup on the side of the screen. Anything large enough to be blocked by the screen would indicate a trashed motor unless it fell in through the oil fill neck. and even then I am not sure it would work it's way into the pan. but anything large enough to block the screen would do major damage to the oil pump.

 

[Niteshooter]

thanks for sharing guys. yeh it was yellow thick hard stuff. kind of like the bike factories put on bolts when inspecting torque specs. the filter was some name brand i had never heard off nor could i find it on the computer and it was an extra 3/4 inch longer but did have the fram number in smaller print besides other numbers.

side question....what is that screen on the drain bolt for? it's too course of a mesh to catch particles. anyway does the oil flow thru the center and out the sides or visa versa?

Fram make a off brand for shops called Defense, Xengst and Mann are brands from Europe but then that might point to the possibility that the filter was never changed from the factory installed one....

 

[sokoloff]

Hengst and Mann filters are readily available in the US, Mann especially - green and yellow box. And if a dealer changed your filter you would get one of them.

Len
2014 EV

 

[Jo e Lefors]

You could also end up with a MicroGard - Oil Filter MGL51334 from O'Rielly auto parts. We would deliver to dealers here in Vegas all the time when they would need a filter and didn't have the right one in stock. When customers want there car back as soon as possible they may not want to wait for a particular brand of filter.

 

[OliverB]

For all oil/filter changes in my '13 I used a Purolator synthetic oil filter. Always had to order it in through Adv Auto.

 

[Jo e Lefors]

Any update on what the dealer had to say?

 

[kheran]

Hengst and Mann filters are readily available in the US, Mann especially - green and yellow box. And if a dealer changed your filter you would get one of them.

Len
2014 EV

Not always true... The last time I had my car in to the dealer it came out with a Mitsubishi filter on the bottom of the engine...

 

[Jo e Lefors]

Not always true... The last time I had my car in to the dealer it came out with a Mitsubishi filter on the bottom of the engine...

Seeing as the 451's engine is made by Mitsubishi that is probably the OEM filter.
The truly correct one for that engine.