The coupe roof (pure, passion, or BRABUS) is attached with permanent bonding adhesive.

 

Thanks so much. Do you know if it can be converted?

 

Why would you want to change the Pure roof to a panoramic. The roofs craze from what i hear and they cab be very warm in the summertime. I personally would not want to do the conversion for those reasons alone.

 

It's a PURE for a reason. However, they were available with the panoramic roof. I wouldn't have one as I'd feel like I was in a fish bowl. I like my solid roof thank you.

 

I bought the pure because of the roof, no power steering but wish I had auto windows....

 

We've had power steering on our loaner from Sarasota for the last week and a half... I'm soooooo glad we don't have it on our car.... major understeer. Now I know what everyone has been talking about.

 

Love the pano roof. But as it get's warmer out, I just stick one of those shiny windshield sun reflectors in between it and the pull shade. Instant cool.

Although I do miss seeing the light through the top....

 

~May be better than a Panoramic Roof~You can open it OR take it out~

~The Smart would use one this size~15 x 30 AutoPort Sunroof~Go see a local installer, and see what they would do to put similar one in your Smart~
http://www.dkhardware.com/product-28772-ap1530b5h-sfc-15-x-30-autoport-sunroof-universal-trim-ring-solar-high-performance-glass.html

http://www.donmar.com/sunroofs/popups.htm

http://www.carparts.com/autoparts/Search?catalogId=10618&storeId=10401&sku=Sun+Roofs

 

(IMO) Power steering in a car this light is a waste of money. You have a better feel for the road, and the wheel is easily turned.

I have the panoramic roof, and I can feel the heat radiating through it on sunny days. It just gets hotter inside, requiring more AC. Wish I didn't have it.

 

I love my pano roof. Rain Snow or Shine.

 

 

Nice Sunroof, To bad that website doesn't work

 

Besides the lower cost the solid opaque roof that comes only on the pure sold me on that model. I might have gone with a passion if it had the same roof as the pure. Also prefer no power steering which adds more weight, uses power and comes directly between me and the wheels.

 

Perhaps the most interesting part of the discussion is the prospect that the Pure is more ready for installation of a true sunroof. I have a 2008 Passion with panoramic roof and I like it. I would have preferred a true sun roof that opened (but wasn't willing to go the cabrio route and sacrifice storage space). If smart had offered the Pure with panoramic roof and Pure with true sun roof, and cabrio as the "full monty" I think it would have been a little better model mix (since we were all ordering our cars at the beginning, they could have offered the solid/panoramic option on Pure and made the sun roof standard on Passions).

 

there is a reason they don't show the outside with the roof open. It looks like someone left it sitting on top and I wouldn't want that on my car. My Land Rover has that , but it doesn't work. Doubt if I will ever fix it.

 

Beginning in 2009 or 2010, you can order a Passion Coupe with the solid opaque roof. as a no cost option.

 

Absolutely correct........I have a friend with a 2009 Passion with the solid roof. I wish I could have ordered my '09 Brabus with the solid roof.

 

I must have a strange Pure, I got it used, and it came with a Panoramic Roof, and Power Steering, and the fancy radio that I never use. Everything else in the car is Pure.

I like the Panoramic Roof, in the summer it's no worse then having an all black or dark colored car, AC is a must.

Power Steering, I don't know the difference between powered and non powered, but I'm happy.

I'm thinking Smart didn't want to diminish the appeal of the Cabrio by offering any other open roof option. It has to be a marketing thing.

I'm very happy with my odd Pure. Hay, does anybody else have the pulse drive, it's not helping my MPG thing at all. :|

 

Just got a used 2009 Passion with the glass roof. Nice.... Also has the see through black shade. Think in the summer shouldn't be too bad.

 

:welcome: to SCoA!

 

You could get a Pure with enough options to make it into a Passion, but it would cost more than a Passion. There was a special version that had power windows too. As I recall, the solid roof was not available on the Passion, only on the Pure.

 

The solid roof (standard on the PURE) IS available as an option on the passion.

If a customer wants to special order one, we will be happy to place the order.

 

I am starting to have and issue with my Pure roof in that it is getting water under "cloth" material on the outside of the roof. Has anyone else seen this issue???
2009 pure, with peeling red paint option.

 

it may not be possible to convert your coupe to a cabriolet with just an allen wrench. It will need professional touches, as well. Aditionally, it is not so easy to remove the Pure roof as it has a strong bonding from the factory

 

Rip the pure roof off!

I bought it in '08 & it now looks like it has tho world's worst case of eczema! No dealer knows how to fix it, it has to be replaced with a new roof. No adhesive is truely permanant. I will get it off one way or another whether the car likes it or not. My question is has anyone done it yet? Or will I be the only one on the planet to fully document how to scalp a pure!

 

You might try using a windshield removal tool such as this:

https://www.amazon.com/Tool-Aid-87900-Windshield-Removal/dp/B0002SRDR8

Here is a link to a replacement roof:

fortwo Passion Pure 2008-2014 OEM Roof Panel - Autobahn Used SMART 451 Parts

Or, you can order a new roof here (expensive):

http://www.mbpartsexpress.com/auto-...008/smart/fortwo/pure-trim/1-0l-l3-gas-engine/body-cat/roof-and-components-scat

You would also need a proper roof adhesive for the smart [the link above for the new roof also lists the adhesive kit]

 

2005 smart 450 cabrio to panoramic

Anyone ever change a cabrio to solid roof or panoramic roof?

I would be interested in doing this if it is possible.

Thanks for your help